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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby MUTU » Sun Nov 22, 2015 9:18 pm

pyrasur wrote:I think this is the one Bayern fan club that has allowed the sort of opinions that it has. There's been a lack of courage to confront the repeated homophobia and racism. I've been disappointed to see the type of vitriol allowed here that would not be considered acceptable in Germany.


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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby #12 » Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:13 pm

I actually think that it is important to be able to criticize Guardiola... And also that there is a counterweight, to the praise he gets... And I know I also tend to be drastic in cjoice of words... But Korab has overstated his case about a thousand times now... I remain critical about Guardiola... But what's done is done and we have a season to play, which - so far - in all fairness leaves little to wish for...
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby JANCKER » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:35 pm

I wasn't on good terms with Korab myself as some of you may think, on the contrary... but I've never taken it into a personal level with insults like some here usually like resorting to... I've been in both sides and being against Pep has its own price here.
But anyway here's a good old FASCINATING article by Shahan Ahmed to keep it going...

Pep Guardiola doesn't deserve to coach another season at Bayern Munich [source]
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:54 pm

#12 wrote:I actually think that it is important to be able to criticize Guardiola... And also that there is a counterweight, to the praise he gets... And I know I also tend to be drastic in cjoice of words... But Korab has overstated his case about a thousand times now... I remain critical about Guardiola... But what's done is done and we have a season to play, which - so far - in all fairness leaves little to wish for...

No man, there's a line between being critical and being a troll. Korab is clearly the latter. And Jancker might be too, but peace to him.

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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby JANCKER » Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:58 pm

Don't hate the messenger dude... deal or don't deal with the message instead, without personal insults of course.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby PunkCapitalist » Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:51 am

JANCKER wrote:Don't hate the messenger dude... deal or don't deal with the message instead, without personal insults of course.

Well, ok... Youre not a troll like Korab, but your accusations against Pep are sometimes crazy. Peace anyways! :)

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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby JANCKER » Mon Nov 23, 2015 1:02 am

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JANCKER wrote:Don't hate the messenger dude... deal or don't deal with the message instead, without personal insults of course.

Well, ok... Youre not a troll like Korab, but your accusations against Pep are sometimes crazy. Peace anyways! :)

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There are reasons to like him, same as there are reasons to dislike him, lately I'm finding more to dislike him... I'm tolerant of Pep worshipers cause I've been one myself and used to have arguments with Korab, FCB General and others and even you to defend him but not after his 2nd year, not winning the CL is secondary to what I dislike about... Peace!
I wish him to leave with a treble from here, this season, so then you'll have something to worship after he leaves... fair enough?
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Dumbledore7 » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:45 am

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PunkCapitalist wrote:
JANCKER wrote:Don't hate the messenger dude... deal or don't deal with the message instead, without personal insults of course.

Well, ok... Youre not a troll like Korab, but your accusations against Pep are sometimes crazy. Peace anyways! :)

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There are reasons to like him, same as there are reasons to dislike him, lately I'm finding more to dislike him... I'm tolerant of Pep worshipers cause I've been one myself and used to have arguments with Korab, FCB General and others and even you to defend him but not after his 2nd year, not winning the CL is secondary to what I dislike about... Peace!
I wish him to leave with a treble from here, this season, so then you'll have something to worship after he leaves... fair enough?


Peace and all, but could you please stop using the word "worship"? I find it a bit insulting, why would anyone worship a man? I'm a Bayern fan and Pep supporter, for now anyway, but that's about it.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Dumbledore7 » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:46 am

MUTU wrote:
pyrasur wrote:I think this is the one Bayern fan club that has allowed the sort of opinions that it has. There's been a lack of courage to confront the repeated homophobia and racism. I've been disappointed to see the type of vitriol allowed here that would not be considered acceptable in Germany.


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I wasn't understating when I said you are a bit of a Bayern legend.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby JANCKER » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:52 am

What's the opposite of Pep worshiper? Pep hater... So...
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby Dumbledore7 » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:54 am

JANCKER wrote:What's the opposite of Pep worshiper? Pep hater... So...


Pretty sure the opposite if hate is love. That I'm cool with.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby FCB general » Mon Nov 23, 2015 2:24 pm

JANCKER wrote:I've been one myself and used to have arguments with Korab, FCB General and others

You're damn right... I still remember these 'clashes'. :D One day I saw you after some period talking against him real hard. I even asked myself the question "is that the same person talking/typing" when back then you defended him real hard and I after waiting some period during the first season saw his one year vacation didn't change him at all regarding his approach and philosophy. :)
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby envagyokazapad » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:19 pm

JANCKER wrote:But anyway here's a good old FASCINATING article by Shahan Ahmed to keep it going...

Pep Guardiola doesn't deserve to coach another season at Bayern Munich [source]


I don't see it tbh...all I see is an opinion supported by nothing...but his opinion.

Our dominance in the Bundesliga is really impressive, but I feel that Pep is sometimes over-complicating things in the CL against the bigger opponents.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby JANCKER » Mon Nov 23, 2015 5:38 pm

He can win the domestic title for another 10 years in a row if he stays here... but I don't see him doing better in other fronts. He's not a specialist in K.O. phases... When a rookie Enrique outclasses you, not mentioning Ancelotti... OK he didn't have half of a team, but so didn't Klinsy... :P
He needed a controversy like the one against Chelsea to lift his first CL title, that's no specialist.
You'd expect us to do better against Spanish teams since he came because he knows them better but that didn't happen... If we once were La Bestia Negra to the Spanish elite, we're not anymore...
I thought that I wouldn't fear Barca again anytime soon but I was so wrong.
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Re: Pep Guardiola [Josep Guardiola i Sala]

Postby PunkCapitalist » Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:43 pm

JANCKER wrote:He can win the domestic title for another 10 years in a row if he stays here... but I don't see him doing better in other fronts. He's not a specialist in K.O. phases... When a rookie Enrique outclasses you, not mentioning Ancelotti... OK he didn't have half of a team, but so didn't Klinsy...
He needed a controversy like the one against Chelsea to lift his first CL title, that's no specialist.
You'd expect us to do better against Spanish teams since he came because he knows them better but that didn't happen... If we once were La Bestia Negra to the Spanish elite, we're not anymore...
I thought that I wouldn't fear Barca again anytime soon but I was so wrong.

That is something i (to a point) agree with you. His away CL record is terrible. But, while Madrid was certainly a catastrophe (by his own words), Barca cannot truly be blamed on him, so I want to see how he does this time.

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