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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby aterford » Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:04 pm

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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby bastos80 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 7:41 pm

Juan Bernat has shirt number 14 now.
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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby Roonzil » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:41 pm

Can't see tweet? Click here!

I don't want to read too much into it, but this is at least a good sign for a longer stay in Bavaria imo
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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby bastos80 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:48 pm

Well done, keep it up =D>
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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby prasun77 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 5:52 pm

He should be given starts nothing against alaba but bernat deserves this..
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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby nm462272 » Sat Jul 15, 2017 6:49 pm

Still don't understand people who say he's not a good player...
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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby Mavs » Sat Jul 15, 2017 7:55 pm

Alaba and Bernat both played great. If Bernat can continue to develop offensively and adds a scoring threat to his game, he might give us another option at LW.
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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby aterford » Sat Jul 15, 2017 10:22 pm

Bernat is more than good enough to make the starting XI IMO. But he is behind one of the best in the world (who I will certainly admit was not good last year). I have no doubt that Bernat would walk in and start for the majority of clubs around Europe, save for a handful
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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby Alduin » Sun Jul 16, 2017 5:56 am

He is definitely at the level of the starting XI and his offensive potential is incredible.
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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby aterford » Sun Jul 16, 2017 6:52 am

Mavs wrote:Alaba and Bernat both played great. If Bernat can continue to develop offensively and adds a scoring threat to his game, he might give us another option at LW.


I've felt the same, TBH. If i remember right Bernat was playing as LM/LW up until 2013-2014 ish. I'm not convinced he couldn't play there for us at some point.
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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:50 am

aterford wrote:Bernat is more than good enough to make the starting XI IMO. But he is behind one of the best in the world (who I will certainly admit was not good last year). I have no doubt that Bernat would walk in and start for the majority of clubs around Europe, save for a handful

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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby #12 » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:31 am

His finishing is beyond shit, his crossing needs improvement at least, so yeah, he played well but let's not get ahead of ourselves...
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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby Coman » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:23 pm

Every single year the same story ... he isn't reliable on a defensive point of view. and will never be. Even less than an average Alaba.

He is a good back-up. Nothing less/more.

In a team like Liverpool with less control and more duel in the league, he would look like Moreno who is benchwarmer for years.
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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby FCB general » Sun Jul 16, 2017 12:34 pm

He's been 3 years at Bayern, he's entering his 4th season at Bayern and I still haven't seen some serious progress in his quality and in my opinion, he won't do anything better than in the last 3 years.
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Re: Juan Bernat [Juan Bernat Velasco]

Postby aterford » Sun Jul 16, 2017 3:31 pm

Coman wrote:Every single year the same story ... he isn't reliable on a defensive point of view. and will never be. Even less than an average Alaba.

He is a good back-up. Nothing less/more.

In a team like Liverpool with less control and more duel in the league, he would look like Moreno who is benchwarmer for years.


Statistically speaking that's simply not true. I think you're being a bit clouded by bias here. Objectively speaking there's no evidence to support the notion that he "isn't reliable on a defensive point of view".

Last season per 90s - Bernat:
Higher pass completion
Same key passes
Same chances created
More assists
More goals
More tackles won
More successful take ons
More aerials won
More 50-50s won
More blocks
More clearances
Less defensive errors


Pretty much same numbers for Bundesliga or UCL.
I get that Bernat hasn't always been great but to talk like he hasn't improved and is nothing more than a backup is foolishness. He was better than Alaba in every single way last year (unless you really value the fact that Alaba had 0.2 more interceptions per 90 in BL....but less in UCL) and there's no way around that. Frankly if we didn't have Alaba and Bernat had been our starting LB for the past 4 years I doubt anyone would be complaining about him (except for maybe the fact that he's Spanish and there will always be someone to complain about Spaniards)
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