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Re: James Rodríguez [James David Rodríguez Rubio]

Postby IsiahRashad » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:37 pm

Obviously,you're not understanding me,and obviosly you didn't read my essay.

You're saying that i'm looking too much at the "played time" statistics.
Let's look at the goals and assist then.
And i'm posting it for the third time.

At the age of 25,Robben came at Bayern also at 25 yo,James in just 15 games more than Robben, has scored 23 more goals than him and assisted 42 times ! more than him. ( Full stats are in my second or third post in previous page ).

So,James played less minutes (subbed in more in Real),but still managed to overscore and i don't know what word should i use for these 42 dimes more ?

Also what was the point on saying that Robben was Bayen's best player in 09/10 ? We're talking before this period.Am i questitioning his quality? No.

James made way more difference in every team he played before Byern.Robben also did it,but not the like James.

And James also missed a lot of time in Real.
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Re: James Rodríguez [James David Rodríguez Rubio]

Postby MUTU » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:50 pm

I give up. Yes, counting goals and assists makes so much sense when a player has 732 injuries.
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Re: James Rodríguez [James David Rodríguez Rubio]

Postby IsiahRashad » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:36 pm

MUTU wrote:I give up. Yes, counting goals and assists makes so much sense when a player has 732 injuries.


Yes,of these 732 injuries 724 happened when he was playing for Bayern.

He missed 14 games for Real and 19 for Chelsea. There's no data for his PSV days.

James missed 38 games for Real (he played one year more with Real than Robben) and 11 for Porto.

What should i count next ?
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Re: James Rodríguez [James David Rodríguez Rubio]

Postby icewizard » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:33 pm

I don't know if it's been said before, but this article from Spiegel give details of James Rodriguez salary and financial operation between FC Bayern and FC Real Madrid...


spiegel.de wrote:emnach verpflichtet sich Bayern München, sämtliche Steuern und Abgaben zu übernehmen. Sollten Steuern oder Sozialabgaben für Angestellte in Deutschland während der Laufzeit des Vertrags ansteigen, müsste der FC Bayern die zusätzlichen Kosten aufbringen, damit es bei dem jährlichen Nettogrundgehalt von 6,5 Millionen Euro für den Neuzugang bleibt.

Bayern München überweist Real Madrid laut dem Leihvertrag zwischen beiden Klubs 13 Millionen Euro, zahlbar in zwei Raten zu jeweils 6,5 Millionen Euro. Die erste Rate ist zum 15. September dieses Jahres fällig. Sollten die Münchner den offensiven Mittelfeldspieler von Juli 2019 an fest verpflichten, wären demnach weitere 42 Millionen Euro Ablösesumme fällig.

Für die Vermittlung des Mittelfeldstars überweist der FC Bayern der Agentur Gestifute des portugiesischen Spielerberaters Jorge Mendes zwei Millionen Euro. Bayern München lehnte eine Stellungnahme zu den Vertragsinhalten ab, auch James Rodríguez und Jorge Mendes äußerten sich auf Nachfrage nicht zu den Vorgängen.


source: http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/fc-bayern-muenchen-vereinbarte-nettogehalt-mit-james-rodriguez-a-1163465.html

Main idea: €13M for 2 years loan to FC Real Madrid (paid on 2 dates) + €2M to agent Jorge Mendes, with €42M option to buy (to be activated before July 2019); €6.5M per annum net salary to the player; bonus: €250K for 12 goals in the season or €500K for 20 goals

lesoir.be wrote:James Rodriguez, prêté deux ans par le Real Madrid au Bayern Munich, a négocié son salaire en net. 541.670 euros net par mois, pour être précis. C’est ce qui ressort du contrat signé par le Colombien le 12 juillet dernier, transmis au journal Der Spiegel et ses partenaires de l’European investigative collaborations (EIC) dont fait partie Le Soir, via les lanceurs d’alerte des Football Leaks.

Le contrat précise noir sur blanc que le salaire de base net du joueur, qui s’élève à 6,5 millions d’euros par an, « exclut tous les impôts sur le revenu et contributions à la sécurité sociale en vigueurs en Allemagne ». Comprendre : si les impôts devaient évoluer à la hausse dans les deux prochaines années que durera le prêt du numéro 10 colombien, le club bavarois augmentera d’autant le salaire de son joueur afin que sa rémunération, elle, ne soit pas impactée.

Le contrat prévoit aussi de belles clauses liées aux résultats : 250.000 euros si James marquait 12 buts en championnat sur une saison ; 250.000 de plus s’il en plantait 20. James Rodriguez se propulse, avec un tel contrat, parmi les joueurs les mieux rémunérés du Bayern, donc de la Bundesliga.

Les conditions du prêt sont également dignes d’intérêt. Le Bayern a consenti à payer 13 millions d’euros à la Casa Blanca, payables en deux fois. Les Munichois ont encore déboursé deux millions d’euros, versés à l’agent portugais de James, Jorge Mendes.

Et au terme des deux ans de prêt ? Le Bayern aura la primeur de s’offrir le milieu offensif en juillet 2019, s’il règle une clause libératoire de 42 millions d’euros.


source: http://www.lesoir.be/109811/article/2017-08-18/james-rodriguez-paye-541670-euros-net-par-mois-au-bayern-munich
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Re: James Rodríguez [James David Rodríguez Rubio]

Postby lau03143 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:37 pm

IsiahRashad wrote:
MUTU wrote:I give up. Yes, counting goals and assists makes so much sense when a player has 732 injuries.


Yes,of these 732 injuries 724 happened when he was playing for Bayern.

He missed 14 games for Real and 19 for Chelsea. There's no data for his PSV days.

James missed 38 games for Real (he played one year more with Real than Robben) and 11 for Porto.

What should i count next ?
James was playing in arguably Europe's best team for the past few years. When Robben was playing in his early career he wasn't. There's almost no point in comparing data.

Look at the player and the perfomances, not numbers on a website.

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Re: James Rodríguez [James David Rodríguez Rubio]

Postby IsiahRashad » Fri Aug 18, 2017 5:45 pm

lau03143 wrote:
IsiahRashad wrote:
MUTU wrote:I give up. Yes, counting goals and assists makes so much sense when a player has 732 injuries.


Yes,of these 732 injuries 724 happened when he was playing for Bayern.

He missed 14 games for Real and 19 for Chelsea. There's no data for his PSV days.

James missed 38 games for Real (he played one year more with Real than Robben) and 11 for Porto.

What should i count next ?
James was playing in arguably Europe's best team for the past few years. When Robben was playing in his early career he wasn't. There's almost no point in comparing data.

Look at the player and the perfomances, not numbers on a website.

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You should read the last 3 or 4 pages.
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Re: James Rodríguez [James David Rodríguez Rubio]

Postby IsiahRashad » Fri Aug 18, 2017 6:12 pm

icewizard wrote:I don't know if it's been said before, but this article from Spiegel give details of James Rodriguez salary and financial operation between FC Bayern and FC Real Madrid...


spiegel.de wrote:emnach verpflichtet sich Bayern München, sämtliche Steuern und Abgaben zu übernehmen. Sollten Steuern oder Sozialabgaben für Angestellte in Deutschland während der Laufzeit des Vertrags ansteigen, müsste der FC Bayern die zusätzlichen Kosten aufbringen, damit es bei dem jährlichen Nettogrundgehalt von 6,5 Millionen Euro für den Neuzugang bleibt.

Bayern München überweist Real Madrid laut dem Leihvertrag zwischen beiden Klubs 13 Millionen Euro, zahlbar in zwei Raten zu jeweils 6,5 Millionen Euro. Die erste Rate ist zum 15. September dieses Jahres fällig. Sollten die Münchner den offensiven Mittelfeldspieler von Juli 2019 an fest verpflichten, wären demnach weitere 42 Millionen Euro Ablösesumme fällig.

Für die Vermittlung des Mittelfeldstars überweist der FC Bayern der Agentur Gestifute des portugiesischen Spielerberaters Jorge Mendes zwei Millionen Euro. Bayern München lehnte eine Stellungnahme zu den Vertragsinhalten ab, auch James Rodríguez und Jorge Mendes äußerten sich auf Nachfrage nicht zu den Vorgängen.


source: http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/fc-bayern-muenchen-vereinbarte-nettogehalt-mit-james-rodriguez-a-1163465.html

Main idea: €13M for 2 years loan to FC Real Madrid (paid on 2 dates) + €2M to agent Jorge Mendes, with €42M option to buy (to be activated before July 2019); €6.5M per annum net salary to the player; bonus: €250K for 12 goals in the season or €500K for 20 goals

lesoir.be wrote:James Rodriguez, prêté deux ans par le Real Madrid au Bayern Munich, a négocié son salaire en net. 541.670 euros net par mois, pour être précis. C’est ce qui ressort du contrat signé par le Colombien le 12 juillet dernier, transmis au journal Der Spiegel et ses partenaires de l’European investigative collaborations (EIC) dont fait partie Le Soir, via les lanceurs d’alerte des Football Leaks.

Le contrat précise noir sur blanc que le salaire de base net du joueur, qui s’élève à 6,5 millions d’euros par an, « exclut tous les impôts sur le revenu et contributions à la sécurité sociale en vigueurs en Allemagne ». Comprendre : si les impôts devaient évoluer à la hausse dans les deux prochaines années que durera le prêt du numéro 10 colombien, le club bavarois augmentera d’autant le salaire de son joueur afin que sa rémunération, elle, ne soit pas impactée.

Le contrat prévoit aussi de belles clauses liées aux résultats : 250.000 euros si James marquait 12 buts en championnat sur une saison ; 250.000 de plus s’il en plantait 20. James Rodriguez se propulse, avec un tel contrat, parmi les joueurs les mieux rémunérés du Bayern, donc de la Bundesliga.

Les conditions du prêt sont également dignes d’intérêt. Le Bayern a consenti à payer 13 millions d’euros à la Casa Blanca, payables en deux fois. Les Munichois ont encore déboursé deux millions d’euros, versés à l’agent portugais de James, Jorge Mendes.

Et au terme des deux ans de prêt ? Le Bayern aura la primeur de s’offrir le milieu offensif en juillet 2019, s’il règle une clause libératoire de 42 millions d’euros.


source: http://www.lesoir.be/109811/article/2017-08-18/james-rodriguez-paye-541670-euros-net-par-mois-au-bayern-munich


I understand (per Football Leaks) that the €500.000 bonus is for 20 assists , but it dosn't matter.
So , we can make the deal permanent for €55 Mill. €.
Meanwhile , Everton paid 49,40 Mill. € for Gylfi Sigurdsson.
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Re: James Rodríguez [James David Rodríguez Rubio]

Postby aterford » Fri Aug 18, 2017 7:42 pm

Good deal, it's not a terribly high wage either
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Re: James Rodríguez [James David Rodríguez Rubio]

Postby tflags » Sat Aug 19, 2017 12:03 pm

42 million euro pre-arranged transfer fee?

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