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Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby #12 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 12:42 am

aterford wrote:
nm462272 wrote:
prasun77 wrote:So now you are bypassing the point i am trying to make?


Not sure what the point was supposed to be, if they're not wrong?


They might not be wrong about that particular point but there's no rhyme or reason behind Kicker's rankings, they're entirely arbitrary and seemingly use a much, MUCH higher standard for "world class" than the rest of the, ya know, world.


And whose fault is that?

There is nothing better than world class... Y'all always say the Bundesliga is shit...
So if a player is not truly outclassing others, why should he be in the wc category?
They are looking at one season and evaluate based on that season according to the rankings they give out every gameday... Those are based on statistics, and they apply for all Bundesliga players alike... Then they calculate an average an put it in those categories...
You can always argue about one or two, but I think they're pretty reasonable...
Of course, these are the kind of guys that think our bad games may have one or two other causes than the ref alone
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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby prasun77 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 3:38 pm

According to them only messi ronaldo would be worldclass
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Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby #12 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:08 pm

No Robben is right there, take a look... So is Manuel Neuer...

Plus "internationale Klasse" is a great achievement...

You're:

1) too literal about it

2) too fast and loose with the words world class...
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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby prasun77 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:03 pm

So you are telling Thiago was not wc this season but neuer and robben were?
No way..
On a side note i think it was one of the poorer seasons for neuer..he was injured for many games then made no remarkable performance except against madrid..
I don't know where that 2014 neuer has gone..with that neuer I got a feeling he could save everything now he is just an extraordinary keeper nothing messi-ronaldo (i mean superhuman) level..
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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby #12 » Thu Jun 15, 2017 6:18 pm

Thiago is obviously on the verge... They were going for attacking mids - for an attacking mid there was to little goal impact in my view... And in theirs apparently...
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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby aterford » Thu Jun 15, 2017 7:36 pm

Kicker's rankings should be seen as for fun and fan discussion only, there's no serious value to them.
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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby nm462272 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 1:51 pm

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/201 ... -football/

Telegraph released their list of the top 50 young players in world football. Notable inclusions:

1. Kylian Mbappe (Monaco)
2. Gabriel Jesus (Manchester City)
3. Ousmane Dembele (Dortmund)
4. Dele Alli (Tottenham)
5. Leroy Sane (Manchester City)
6. Kingsley Coman (Bayern Munich)
7. Marco Asensio (Real Madrid)
8. Gianluigi Donnarumma (AC Milan)
9. Andre Silva (AC Milan)
10. Marcus Rashford (Manchester United)

15. Julian Weigl (Dortmund)
17. Julian Brandt (Bayer Leverkusen)
18. Christian Pulisic (Dortmund)

21. Timo Werner (Leipzig)
25. Jonathan Tah (Bayer Leverkusen)
28. Riechedly Bazoer (Wolfsburg)

32. Mahmoud Dahoud (Dortmund)
35. Renato Sanches (Bayern Munich)

40. Max Meyer (Schalke)
42. Niklas Sule (Bayern Munich)
44. Benjamin Henrichs (Bayer Leverkusen)
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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby JJJ » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:13 pm

Pulisic should be way higher.

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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby #12 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:50 pm

No Gnabry? I'm shocked!!!

Where's Josh though?!
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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby Effenberg777 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:34 pm

#12 wrote:No Gnabry? I'm shocked!!!

Where's Josh though?!

Kimmich is on the next level :p
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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby nm462272 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:37 pm

#12 wrote:No Gnabry? I'm shocked!!!

Where's Josh though?!


too old, perhaps? i may be mistaken, but i think this list is 21 and under
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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby #12 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:44 pm

Always figured Süle was older already...
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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby nm462272 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 4:49 pm

#12 wrote:Always figured Süle was older already...


looks like he's about 30 :lol:
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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby SilentStrike » Wed Jun 21, 2017 5:25 pm

Seeing that list... I'm still so sour about missing out on Sané.

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Re: Official generic player & staff discussion

Postby #12 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:36 pm

SilentStrike wrote:Seeing that list... I'm still so sour about missing out on Sané.

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