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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:01 pm

Anything more detailed about today's performance? Maybe some flaws or something that stands out in particular?
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby sherpthederp » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:07 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Anything more detailed about today's performance? Maybe some flaws or something that stands out in particular?

He made a couple of ill timed and unnecessary tackles. As for positives he utterly controlled the tempo of the game, constantly playing balls into the final third and keeping pressure on Arsenals midfield. Paired with Thiago I think he would really shine
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby bastos80 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:14 pm

Hummels: "Corentin is getting stronger and stronger everyday. If he continues he will be a hell of a player for us this season."

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Anything more detailed about today's performance? Maybe some flaws or something that stands out in particular?


Very calm on the ball, showed that he is very dynamic and strong going forward and very able to take part in our short passing game.
Played 2-3 perfectly weighted long-balls.
Had some nice interceptions but also some fouls and made a mistake that could have been nasty when he tried his favorite pass through the middle but failed.
Scored a goal but was wrongly called off-side.

Very good performance.
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby Firefox1234 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:22 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Anything more detailed about today's performance? Maybe some flaws or something that stands out in particular?

His physical stature and aggressive play make him prone to the ill timed or unnecessary tackle but in my opinion it's not as much of a liability as Vidal's play. Overall he is in my definition of a complete midfielder in the same mold as Schweinsteiger. When he is paired with a DM like Martinez he can take up the box to box role with runs into the box as seen by his wrongfully offside goal. While when paired with a Thiago he is comfortable sitting deep and shielding the defense. All this is in the context of a two man midfield but still Avery exciting player to watch in the near future....
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby bastos80 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:30 pm

Firefox1234 wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:Anything more detailed about today's performance? Maybe some flaws or something that stands out in particular?

His physical stature and aggressive play make him prone to the ill timed or unnecessary tackle but in my opinion it's not as much of a liability as Vidal's play. Overall he is in my definition of a complete midfielder in the same mold as Schweinsteiger. When he is paired with a DM like Martinez he can take up the box to box role with runs into the box as seen by his wrongfully offside goal. While when paired with a Thiago he is comfortable sitting deep and shielding the defense. All this is in the context of a two man midfield but still Avery exciting player to watch in the near future....



I still think the best would be a 3 man midfield with him, Vidal and Thiago.
But we have too many attackers who also want to play.
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby Coman » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:34 pm

I really liked it. The guy was everywhere and give the tempo of the game with good ball.

He succed 100% of his passes in the last 30 meters and I saw him miss 2 passes in the entire game.

bastos80 wrote:
I still think the best would be a 3 man midfield with him, Vidal and Thiago.
But we have too many attackers who also want to play.


I disagree with you on this as we have 3 midfielder capable to run, run and run and recover balls (Thiago, Vidal, Tolisso) I think 2 is enough.

This Bayern team need more verticality with an additional offensive player.

3 CM is always the same story : Lewandowski too alone and less depth and verticality in our game.
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby bastos80 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:36 pm

What? Thiago is as different to those 2 as it can get.
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby aterford » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:41 pm

Boy, this kid is really something. Excited!
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby tflags » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:50 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Anything more detailed about today's performance? Maybe some flaws or something that stands out in particular?


His right sock was higher than the left. Not sure he had anything else to worry about.
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby MUTU » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:52 pm

tflags wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:Anything more detailed about today's performance? Maybe some flaws or something that stands out in particular?


His right sock was higher than the left. Not sure he had anything else to worry about.

Damn he needs to pull up his socks.
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby Coman » Wed Jul 19, 2017 8:56 pm

bastos80 wrote:What? Thiago is as different to those 2 as it can get.


What I mean is a Thiago, Vidal (or Tolisso), Müller midfield would be better for Bayern, as much as for the rotation all over the season, as much because imo we would play better like this.
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby bastos80 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:01 pm

We will see. That's probably how it will be in the majority of Bundesliga games anyways.
I just think that in a 3 man midfield the offensive qualities of those 3 will shine more.
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:08 pm

Sounds promising. I look forward to seeing him play properly.

Based on what you wrote I was also wondering whether he might be too similar to Vidal. The Vidal-Tolisso-Thiago midfield appears to be the most likely though. Maybe Tolisso will allow Vidal to take on a more offensive role.


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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby bastos80 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:17 pm

He's better technically than Vidal.
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Re: Corentin Tolisso

Postby Mircea_1984 » Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:47 pm

Im still confused about how can we compare him with Dahoud from Dortmund. Who is better? I know that Bayern payed more on Tolliso but he is 2 years older than Dahoud. From what you have seen until they came to Bayern and BVB, who do you think is better between them?
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