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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby FCB general » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:47 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:What, no Vidal?

Vidal is also there, but there's no first 11. Bayern was the best(2012/2013) when it didn't have the first 11. :)
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby Coman » Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:51 pm

FCB general wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:What, no Vidal?

Vidal is also there, but there's no first 11. Bayern was the best(2012/2013) when it didn't have the first 11. :)

What do you mean by "first 11"
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby YlonenXabi » Sun Dec 04, 2016 3:07 pm

I think he means that there is not a starting lineup because we have more than 11 good players that will play depending on their form

But I have to disagree with that. In 12/13 the team peaked when Kroos got injured and Robben replaced him.

Neuer, Alaba, Dante, Boateng, Lahm, Schweinsteiger, Javi Martinez, Ribery, Mueller, Robben, Mandzukic

That was the starting lineup in most of the big games that year

That's f*cking awesome and most of those players peaked on that season.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby aterford » Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:37 pm

Vidal absolutely 100% has to play when healthy.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby JANCKER » Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:04 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:In 12/13 the team peaked when Kroos got injured


I'm no Kroos fanboy nor a hater at the time but we can't know what would've happened if he didn't get injured, only pretend.

You don't want me to start talking in WHAT IFs...

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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby zozon » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:02 am

zozon wrote:
JANCKER wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:In 12/13 the team peaked when Kroos got injured


I'm no Kroos fanboy nor a hater at the time but we can't know what would've happened if he didn't get injured, only pretend.

You don't want me to start talking in WHAT IFs...

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He is right. Bayern got their shit together when Robben started on the right wing and Kroos was out, thats a fact. I dont care what would've happened with Kroos playing, we won a treble with Robben starting, so everything else is irrelevant.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby JANCKER » Mon Dec 05, 2016 12:31 am

Part of the success belongs to Kroos as well... despite him being injured on the final stages. You take for granted all that's been before he got injured... we didn't have a bad season when he was playing. Maybe he didn't have to get injured for Robben to be reintroduced and etc. Next time someone gets injured and we win something, I'll claim that we were lucky that he got injured(maybe it'll be Vidal, how do you like that?), despite him contributing more than a half season.

I will say that Ancelotti was lucky at RM because he didn't have Alonso in the CL final...
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Mon Dec 05, 2016 6:30 pm

It's a fact that we were struggling vs Juve before Kroos left the pitch and also that the one who took his place in the lineup eventually scored the winner. But I hate it when people ignore Kroos's contribution. We played with Kroos when it was better to have him and with Robben when we needed him. It would be lucky if Heynckes would have stuck with Kroos even when we needed Robben more. I think there's a good chance that would have happened, but we can't know for sure.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby fashiondesign_guru » Mon Dec 05, 2016 8:05 pm

And I think this should on top instead of Guardiola now. Guardiola is no longer our coach, Ancelotti is. While we're not playing as good as we should, we should support him since he's our coach now.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby JANCKER » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:38 am

This man is a genius, give him a raise... never seen anything like that, just incredible. Magnifico. Haters come out... :P
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby Coman » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:40 am

4-2-3-1

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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby JANCKER » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:45 am

Coman wrote:4-2-3-1

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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby Coman » Wed Dec 07, 2016 8:50 am

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Coman wrote:4-2-3-1

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No, it's magic.

No, it's 4-2-3-1 and A new way to play.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby JANCKER » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:09 am

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Coman wrote:4-2-3-1

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No, it's magic.

No, it's 4-2-3-1 and A new way to play.


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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby Coman » Wed Dec 07, 2016 9:44 am

It took time to see him change his useless 4-3-3 in a solid 4-2-3-1 with a new way to use the full-backs but Ancelotti started one week ago to build the Bayern every fan expect, I guess.

He has to continue in this way. The way he uses the turn-over to keep all players fresh and motivated is good too.
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