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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby RedQueen » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:42 am

Maybe he should read today's Kicker edition (print) then, that would probably make him understand. That's pretty damning stuff. The gist of it, what I gathered from several media including Kicker online quoting.


Robben, Neuer and Boateng as well as Lahm and Alonso last season complained to the Bayern board about Carlo's training methods. They felt he didn't improve the team or the players. Robben specifically said his son received better training with his youth team than Bayern did with Ancelotti. When the players organized individual training sessions on their own, Ancelotti forbade them. Players then moved to a different location for those training sessions.

His fitness coach was smoking in the locker room and didn't do sufficient warm-up training (according to Kicker: Sometimes only 3 minutes).

Ahead of the game against PSG, for the first time (!!) during his tenure in Munich, video analysis were made, but their results didn't enter the preparation for the game.

There was no in-game coaching. All Ancelotti told them during the draw against Wolfsburg at HT was "you have to watch out better".

Kimmich, Coman and Boateng were thinking about leaving the club.

The team atmosphere was toxic because Ancelotti seemed to favour the Spanish players without an apparent reason.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby MUTU » Mon Oct 02, 2017 10:50 am

I don't understand why it took the board so long to fire him. If all the above is true, it seems clear he was sabotaging the team, whether purposely or not, though he doesn't help himself getting the benefit of the doubt when you read that he forbade players to do extra training on their own. And reading the part about Lahm makes me extra sad; chances are that Lahm would not have retired yet had Bayern not hired Ancelotti.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:01 am

MUTU wrote:I don't understand why it took the board so long to fire him. If all the above is true, it seems clear he was sabotaging the team, whether purposely or not, though he doesn't help himself getting the benefit of the doubt when you read that he forbade players to do extra training on their own. And reading the part about Lahm makes me extra sad; chances are that Lahm would not have retired yet had Bayern not hired Ancelotti.

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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby MUTU » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:02 am

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MUTU wrote:I don't understand why it took the board so long to fire him. If all the above is true, it seems clear he was sabotaging the team, whether purposely or not, though he doesn't help himself getting the benefit of the doubt when you read that he forbade players to do extra training on their own. And reading the part about Lahm makes me extra sad; chances are that Lahm would not have retired yet had Bayern not hired Ancelotti.

what happened to Lahm?

Did you forget already? Was it such a traumatic experience? :)

Let me remind you: during Ancelotti's tenure, during which it's now clear he was not happy, he pushed his retirement forward by one year. The last contract he signed was set to expire in 2018.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:07 am

the fact that there are no leaders in the team is hurting us big time...
Neuer is absent but still he is not a leader...
Mueller is a joker...
IMO Hummels should have been named as Captain...
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby #12 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:23 am

First thing Salihamidzic did? Right, forbade smoking... Hummels even said that the question was whether this sacking was even fast and suddenly...
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby MUTU » Mon Oct 02, 2017 11:41 am

#12 wrote:Hummels even said that the question was whether this sacking was even fast and suddenly...

Can you please rephrase?
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby #12 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 12:56 pm

Hummels was asked whether he was surprised that Ancelotti was sacked so fast and unexpected and all of a sudden now... And is answer was that the question is IF it REALLY was fast, suddenly and unexpected...
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby endrity » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:02 pm

If things were really that bad, and it might have been true, given the summer results, than this should have been done much sooner.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby MUTU » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:04 pm

The more stuff I read against Ancelotti, the more confidence I get that the next coach could make a big difference.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby endrity » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:09 pm

If things were really this bad, than there really is no place to go but up.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby Roonzil » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:14 pm

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I wondered about this bit of information...I never knew or saw signs of segregated dinners. UNTIL Thiago's wife uploaded this:

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That's Davide, with Thiago and Javi in a private dinner. And the comment posted by Julia suggests they were pretty close. I never knew they were friends privately, but this might be what Kicker is referring to.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:18 pm

this also confirms why Bayern should get a German coach.
The only exception will be for foreigners working in Germany.
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Re: Carlo Ancelotti

Postby MUTU » Mon Oct 02, 2017 1:23 pm

Roonzil wrote: Can't see tweet? Click here!

I wondered about this bit of information...I never knew or saw signs of segregated dinners. UNTIL Thiago's wife uploaded this:

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That's Davide, with Thiago and Javi in a private dinner. And the comment posted by Julia suggests they were pretty close. I never knew they were friends privately, but this might be what Kicker is referring to.

This is the part I least understand. Thiago deserved to play, while Martinez played mostly due to injuries to German defenders.
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