tflags wrote:Didn't the US like qualify first in their group in South Africa; ahead of England?
MUTU wrote:The group of hell according to the Elo rankings would be:
According to bookmaker odds they would be:
ramsej84 wrote:They excel vs the best teams
MUTU wrote:So basically if you're losing a friendly, change loads of players in the last 5 minutes and you won't lose any coefficients. How ridiculous is this?
I consider myself an expert on the subjects having worked on a number of ranking systems (including football ones) and know the best algorithms and maths behind great rankings. The systems used by UEFA and FIFA are, from a mathematical aspect, beyond pathetic.
Arpad E. Elo made a ranking system for chess a long time ago and it's the system on which almost all ranking systems (FIFA and UEFA excluded) are based. There have been improvements since, especially to adapt to sports like football where a team doesn't just win, draw or lose but can win by a big margin (e.g. 5-0). I had made a ranking system which I since stopped updating but took all these factors into effect, including the home advantage based on statistical archived data.
But what is still being kept is a rudimentary, basic Elo system by these guys: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Football_Elo_Ratings
As you can see, it's way better than the FIFA system but if I were to give them my algorithms it would be much better When I'm not busy I will find a means to get historical data for old matches and release the ranking system online. It will be, without any shadow of doubt, the best ranking system for both national teams and club teams.
So basically if you're losing a friendly, change loads of players in the last 5 minutes and you won't lose any coefficients. How ridiculous is this?
MUTU wrote: My dad had done a ranking system for the Malta Chess Federation in the early to mid 80s
FCBayernMunchen wrote:MUTU wrote: My dad had done a ranking system for the Malta Chess Federation in the early to mid 80s
My own father was a national chess player at around that time. They probably know each other.
tflags wrote:El Kloppo: "there have been so many rule changes that Switzerland is now in Pot 1. That can otherwise only in alpine sports."
DerKaiser wrote:Italy in the group stage might be a good thing! ?
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