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[2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:30 pm

VfL Wolfsburg will win inside 90 minutes
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8%
VfL Wolfsburg will win on penalties
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Bayern Munich will win on penalties
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4%
Bayern Munich will win inside 90 minutes
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88%
 
Total votes : 24

Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby SBash22 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 7:31 am

YlonenXabi wrote:I don't know where all that panic about Alaba playing CB come from.

Yes, the first time that I saw him playing CB I thought Pep was going crazy and it was big waste playing him there. But then Pep created this new role in the 3 man defense for him and Alaba is for sure world class playing there. And it's really difficult for the other team to figure out what is going with him during the game. It's like a new position only for him. Maybe Vidal would be good in that role too.

I think that was one of the best things that Pep did last season. But then he got injured as most of our squad and the season ended in a poor way.


I dont think there is panic about his ability to play there.... I just think most dont think it gets the most of his abilities

that being said, vs Wolfsburg we could have Alaba/Boateng/Rafinha as a back 3..... that back line is very small/weak and could get destroyed by any team with a decent aerial attack and/or on set pieces
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:39 am

OK let us presume Alaba is re - deployed as LCB but if Rafinha is confirmed at RCB it will confirm that our coach is a crazy man.
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby Rauntšik » Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:42 am

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But, but I don't want Alonso..
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 8:58 am

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But, but I don't want Alonso..


weren't bengalio, KdB, Benatia all doubtful...

Alonso :lol: how low can we go... if I were Rode or Hojbjerg I would desert the team and force a transfer.
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby Machiavellico » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:21 am

Perisic is injured. Benaglio and KDB are doubtful to say the least. Not that good a prediction if you ask me
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby MoFattal » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:23 am

Finally, we have ourselves a match!
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby Machiavellico » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:34 am

YlonenXabi wrote:I don't know where all that panic about Alaba playing CB come from.

Yes, the first time that I saw him playing CB I thought Pep was going crazy and it was big waste playing him there. But then Pep created this new role in the 3 man defense for him and Alaba is for sure world class playing there. And it's really difficult for the other team to figure out what is going with him during the game. It's like a new position only for him. Maybe Vidal would be good in that role too.

I think that was one of the best things that Pep did last season. But then he got injured as most of our squad and the season ended in a poor way.


The panic comes from that no matter how versatile he is, he doesn't possess the qualities of a CB. And I got some examples. Last match, against Guanghzou. They had many chances. Many through balls cut through the team's defense like it was nothing. Now, okay, it's not Alaba's fault entirely, but some of those balls went through his side. A better positioning may have prevented those chances.
Also, what I think is most important, he doesn't have the physique to be a CB. Say a cross comes(like we conceded against Valencia, for example). What would Alaba do against let's say Falcao? What would Alaba do against Ibrahimovic? Now do you think Benatia or Javi would have the same problem? He can develop his technique, but ain't much to do about his height.
It would be, as other said, a total waste of his abilities and a danger to the defense to play him there. You can't depend on just one natural CB. The team still has to defend. It's not just attack. Or we get our asses whooped again with 3 goals in 15 mins.
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Aug 01, 2015 10:36 am

and Vierinha if I am not mistaken had to go to S04 right?
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby YlonenXabi » Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:27 am

Of course I'm speaking about Alaba playing CB in a 3 man defense. If that's the case then you don't necessarily need 3 tall defenders. I still remember our first half of the season last year and Alaba was a beast in that position. Him and Boateng were supposed to be playing CB positions but both appeared literally EVERYWHERE on the field.
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby zkwc » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:22 pm

Can't wait to see Arturo Vidal in action, hope Pep puts him in tonight !
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby kingbayern » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:37 pm

Cant wait to see costa play again
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby tflags » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:47 pm

Perisic dammit. PERISIC!
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby armbrust » Sat Aug 01, 2015 1:57 pm

Cant wait to see Robben ...
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby envagyokazapad » Sat Aug 01, 2015 3:48 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:Of course I'm speaking about Alaba playing CB in a 3 man defense. If that's the case then you don't necessarily need 3 tall defenders. I still remember our first half of the season last year and Alaba was a beast in that position. Him and Boateng were supposed to be playing CB positions but both appeared literally EVERYWHERE on the field.


What do you mean the first half of the season? We barely really played this formation last season at all...it was like this against Roma, but most of the times Alaba was either injured or clearly playing CM. If the idea is to play Alaba as a third CB so we can play Bernat as a wingback...then this really doesn't make that much sense. I'd rather just play the formation from the cup final against Dortmund with Boateng taking the mid CB position in case Javi is injured.

Alaba has amazing pace, dribbling, shooting technique and passing...it would make sense to keep him close to the goal, and by that I don't mean ours...
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Re: [2015-08-01] VfL Wolfsburg vs Bayern Munich

Postby avirano » Sat Aug 01, 2015 4:32 pm

Anyone knows where can I watch the game online?
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