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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby MUTU » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:10 pm

JANCKER wrote:My point is that you just don't wake up one day and say out of nowhere that you're Italian or whatever

What do Ömer Toprak, Mehmet Ekici, Cenk Tosun, Roman Neustädter and Kevin-Prince Boateng have in common? They all disagree with what you said, since one fine day they decided that they weren't German despite playing for Germany at youth or senior level. All five of them were born and raised in Germany, by the way.
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby MUTU » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:12 pm

JANCKER wrote:MUTU if I assimilated I'd fight for Germany but if I didn't I'd do go and fight for Turkey.

So you'd drop the bomb on your own home, shoot down your friends and throw a grenade at your German girlfriend, all in the name of a far-away land you've never stepped on?
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby JANCKER » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:24 pm

MUTU wrote:Ömer Toprak, Mehmet Ekici, Cenk Tosun,


You mentioned 3... there are millions in Germany. enough to not have to deal with Germans on a daily basis and to not feel as one at all. If they weren't raised in Germany, they'd probably be "shepherds" in their original country today... they owe Germany, they use Germany... sometimes they pay it back, sometimes not... they'll decide to play for Germany or Turkey for opportunism, sometimes for loyalty... but they're not German, they didn't assimilate.
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby JANCKER » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:29 pm

MUTU wrote:
JANCKER wrote:MUTU if I assimilated I'd fight for Germany but if I didn't I'd do go and fight for Turkey.

So you'd drop the bomb on your own home, shoot down your friends and throw a grenade at your German girlfriend, all in the name of a far-away land you've never stepped on?


I didn't assimilate, I befriended only with my fellow Turks most of the time and have a Turkish bride... We speak Turkish at home, go to hangout in places that are owned by Turks and etc. :wink:
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby MUTU » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:31 pm

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MUTU wrote:
JANCKER wrote:MUTU if I assimilated I'd fight for Germany but if I didn't I'd do go and fight for Turkey.

So you'd drop the bomb on your own home, shoot down your friends and throw a grenade at your German girlfriend, all in the name of a far-away land you've never stepped on?


I didn't assimilate, I befriend only with my fellow Turks most of the time and have a Turkish bride... :wink:

But you would still drop the bomb on your house and city.
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby JANCKER » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:37 pm

MUTU wrote:But you would still drop the bomb on your house and city.


Why bomb my house? My house would be safe from them... I'd sell it before because we'd be unwanted there if such thing happened. :P
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby #12 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:38 pm

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#12 wrote:Your point being?


My point is that you just don't wake up one day and say out of nowhere that you're Italian or whatever... if your family is 99% of one nation, you belong to that group too... mixed marriages are more complicated, father's name used to play a major role there nevertheless but not anymore.


Says who? Marcel Reif abandoned German citizenship... There's Americans in this very forum that have German families... So they can't be American? ;)
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby JANCKER » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:42 pm

Everyone can be American... people assimilate to that one easier than any other but still not everyone.
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:45 pm

And this thread officially has MUTU's longest ever off-topic. :P
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby #12 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 5:49 pm

Everyone can be German - if they WANT to! If they don't, then **** off! ;)
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby FCB general » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:16 pm



Haha, I guess this has been taken in BiH, Sarajevo or Zenica. What an intruder! :lol: :lol: :lol:

edit: It's a fake. However, not far from the truth. :)

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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:17 pm

i am liking this kaputska lad
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby MaCk0y » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:41 pm

So NIR won their qualifying group. I wonder how Cechia and Hungary will fair. They have offered nothing in attack.
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby Thiagoalcantara » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:49 pm

IN USA, most immigrants and even second generation children consider themselves to be the nationality of their parents....

I would bet all those French Africans players during their peak years always considered themselves from their country in Africa, rather than France, just like the Turkish Germans on the NT....

As Jancker said, if Germany sucked NT wise, I would bet Ozil, GUndogan, Mustafi and even boateng to play for their other country, without doubt. Even Alaba who plays for Austria even though he grew up with a Phillipino and Nigerian parent.

Look at the South americans in USA, u think they are repping USA Flags and not their Colombia, Brazil, Argentina stuff?
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Re: UEFA EURO 2016

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Jun 12, 2016 6:59 pm

So all games have been very close...
Waiting for the World Champions and later in the week for the European title holders

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