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Re: World News Thread

Postby ottackon » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:20 am

ramsej84 wrote:
Gay marriage to be introduced in Malta soon
Bill to change name of civil union to marriage being drafted [source]


what a joke of a government ...

Civil Union is OK... but Marriage is between a MAN and a WOMAN

Civil Union is not OK, it was the stepping stone to Gay marriage, now, the next step, is the "right" to have children through adoption, surrogacy and later, why not legalizing polyamorous marriage, because there's no limit to the concept of "love".
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Re: World News Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:41 am

What's in a name? That which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet.


Why so much against recognising love? At least one of you is happily married too, no less.
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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:15 am

But it shouldn't be called like that.
Marriages are sacred.
@ottackon. This Govt passed a law last yr enabling gay adoptions

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Re: World News Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:25 am

Why shouldn't they be called like that? They're only sacred for the Church and that refers to religious marriages. The Church has every right to say that its marriages are between man and woman but this is something different. The idea of marriage is not an original idea of the Church. It exists all over the ancient world and in many places same-sex marriages or relationships were recognised thousands of years ago.

The idea that marriage can only be between man and woman comes from the Abrahamic religions and I think Hinduism, nowhere else... That makes it a constructed idea.


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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 10:28 am

That does not make them good.
But whatever... under this Gov Malta has become part of the decaying West.


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Re: World News Thread

Postby FCB general » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:08 am

ramsej84 wrote:N.Farage on todays youths ...https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status ... 3955155968

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That's what we have been seeing over the last 40 years. When I heard this, I remembered Churchill and immediately below the status: :D

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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:32 am

:lol: Another U Turn
Government climbs down from criticised migrants' policy [source]


Now the Capitalists can sleep tight again
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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:35 am

Briton given £1m by UK government blows himself up for Islamic State
Father of five was given compensation by the UK government for alleged torture while in detention [source]
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Re: World News Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:27 pm

ramsej84 wrote:That does not make them good.
But whatever... under this Gov Malta has become part of the decaying West.


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In your eyes perhaps.

I don't see why it is in any way wrong. Apart from the fact that there is literally no difference except for a change in name, it is still not impacting anyone at all apart from those concerned.
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Re: World News Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:31 pm

ramsej84 wrote:N.Farage on todays youths ...https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status ... 3955155968

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So he says that the educational establishment has been "hijacked" by the liberal left. That academia is almost solely leftist is undeniable. And yet, there is no one giving these people a script on what to read, say, study, teach, believe. Perhaps Farage should ask himself why is it that almost every single post-tertiary educated person subscribes to liberal views. ;)
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Re: World News Thread

Postby #12 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:24 am

Plus: says the guy who promises stuff he takes back literally 5 minutes after a decision has been made

Marriage is sacred? Says who? I DO hope you never lied or sinned in any other way ramsej
Sorry but that's nothing but stubbornness... There is no argument in here, that actually is coherent or making sense - except that they shouldn't get family benefits, where I agree, since they themselves are unable to reproduce...

Churchill... Give me a break...
Multicultural societies, political debate (not like in here but actual arguments), diversity (of opinion) - all of that is so non-authoritarian, it screams at you... So where's the fascism? There are some authoritarians here though...
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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 8:14 am

No I am for all the benefits hetero couples get (bar adoptions) in terms of tax , social benefits, wills etc

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Re: World News Thread

Postby #12 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 10:35 am

Well, we disagree... But I absolutely think you're entitled to your opinion... Problem here is that you ultimately claim it's the only option based on mere "fanatism" (the " are there for a reason!) when there are valid arguments against it...
Constitutional rights should be valid for every group/minority/individual for them in order to be maintained for "the majority" as well...
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Re: World News Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:27 pm

The thing is this has nothing to do with rights at all. The rights are there... in Malta civil unions have the EXACT same status as marriage, as far as I know. This is literally just a change in name which is why I can't see why it has caused such an uproar (at least among online commenters).
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Re: World News Thread

Postby MUTU » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:51 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:This is literally just a change in name which is why I can't see why it has caused such an uproar (at least among online commenters).

Because they want to retain their superiority complex of their traditional marriage over the newly-available civil union. Otherwise, how else can they use religion as an excuse to preach exactly what their own religion forbids them to do: discriminating and hating because it's "unnatural", despite scientifical evidence pointing to a 'gay gene' which would thus make homosexuality natural?
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