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Re: Politics Thread

Postby ottackon » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:42 am

As a Muslim who lived in Europe for some time, I read a lot of untruths and I want to recall some basic facts :

1- There is no Arab invasion that aims to conquer Europe.
The vast majority of immigrants went to France, Italy, Germany, Netherlands, Belgium and Britain in the 50s and 60s to rebuild the continent at the request of european companies and entreprises, who were looking for a cheap and robust workforce. And because the European authorities at the time wanted immigrants to spend their money in Europe instead of letting them go back home, they put in place family reunification that made the Muslim population grow in Europe. Therefore, one must stop with the fantasy of the arab invasion.



2- Regarding the recent wave of refugees that have shaken Europe for several months, there again, we must ask the right questions:
- Who has destabilized the Middle East and for what purpose?
- Why the Gulf countries that continue to financialy support terrorist groups are strongly backed by the West ?
- How is it that this wave of illegal immigration started only after several years of devastating war in Syria and Iraq? And who are the networks that allowed these people to pass through Turkey and Greece to get to Europe?


3- Devastating terrorist attacks take place almost every day in the Middle East and North Africa and kill hundreds of people without arousing the same emotion and spirit of solidarity that the attacks occurring on European soil. That is why one must not fall into the trap of considering these terrorist groups as only enemies of Western civilization and its values, but these serial killers are blinded by hatred. They slaughter indiscriminately and therefore, they are humanity's enemies.

4- Islam is a universal religion with almost 2 billion followers worldwide, and it is unacceptable to reduce it to the actions of a tiny minority of terrorists. This form of terrorism has only appeared since the second half of the twentieth century and strangely, the British and the Americans were the first supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt (To counter Gamal Abd-Nasser and the Pan-Arabism and maintain the divide and conquer policy of the west in the arab world), the "Mujahideen" in Afghanistan (To counter the soviets who entered the country at the request of the socialist afghan goverment at the time and not as an invasion as the western propaganda contiues say).


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5. Terrorism is not a religious problem but the result of deep political and economic issues. The suicide bombers are recruited among the youngest, the poorest, the most illiterate, the most desperate, the most disoriented and most uprooted Muslims in MENA and Europe. These people undergo a complete brainwashing and are drugged to commit the most horrific acts. A sane person is unable to wear an explosive belt.

The solution to all this shit to me is:

1 Solve the Arab-Israeli conflict.
2. End the Western intervention in the internal affairs of muslim countries and stop stealing their hydrocarbon wealth.
3- Ending mass immigration and make possible the return of Muslim populations settled in Europe who fail to assimilate into Western culture.
4- Implement a more equitable economic and financial system to enable poor countries get richer.

But I'm not naive enough to believe that the political and economic elites who dominate the world through these contradictions and conflicts, will give up their hold on humanity to allow different people to live in prosperity and peace.
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Re: Politics Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:04 am

well said Ottackon =D>
However the problem is that you do not have a leader... no authority so you can have false imams who seed hatred...
The problem is with those who were born in Europe...
And another thing that irritates me is that OK we condemn and say that Islam is a religion of peace and all and these animals are doing a bad name and these are not true Islamic ppl... but ... nothing is done to stop them...
I agree on what you said 99%

We all know where the real problem is...
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Re: Politics Thread

Postby ottackon » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:39 am

ramsej84 wrote:well said Ottackon =D>
However the problem is that you do not have a leader... no authority so you can have false imams who seed hatred...
The problem is with those who were born in Europe...
And another thing that irritates me is that OK we condemn and say that Islam is a religion of peace and all and these animals are doing a bad name and these are not true Islamic ppl... but ... nothing is done to stop them...
I agree on what you said 99%

We all know where the real problem is...

Those imams you're talking about are sent from Gulf states to Europe, mainly from Saudi Arabia, they represent a minority. But the european authorities know exactly what's happening and they let them come and go freely, why ?
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Re: Politics Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:45 am

Accomplice in Brussels airport attacks arrested -
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Re: Politics Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:28 pm

Maltese Muslim community condemns Brussels bombings [source]
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Re: Politics Thread

Postby JANCKER » Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:13 pm

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here is your democracy, human's rights and political correctness... For a change the brothers were known to the Police but ,,,, we all know what happened [source]


That sounds so European... Sentencing tax fraudsters but letting terrorists free like birds, sounds like democracy to me.

Creme de la Creme is when some European leaders declare that this is a phenomenon that we have to get used to live with... Spineless European leaders and dumb brainwashed folks who still keep them in power.
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Re: Politics Thread

Postby FCB general » Wed Mar 23, 2016 5:04 pm

I thought we have an agreement. You stay away... I stay away... Everybody stays happy, i.e. nobody gets hurt.



Some sons of bit?? simply don't understand what does it mean to leave someone's country, people, culture and order alone.
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Re: Politics Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:37 pm

BBC reported that Erdogan had informed the Belgian authorities about a guy whom they had arrested on the Syrian border. However Belgiun wanted him extradicted back "home"...
This guy happened to be one of the brothers who committed the Brussels terrorist attack.
What can I say ? We at the west we are really in safe hands...
Well done to Belgium:evil:
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Re: Politics Thread

Postby JANCKER » Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:51 pm

Let alone that they got no balls but they're incompetent as well. That's only the tip of an iceberg, this system sucks donkey balls.
I know some people that were convicted in France but they escaped and they go back in France whenever the **** they want without getting caught.
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Re: Politics Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:13 pm

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Re: Politics Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:18 pm

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Re: Politics Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Mar 24, 2016 3:12 pm

Morocco says arrests 9 suspected Islamist militants with Libya ties [source]
Well done to the Moroccan authorities I am sure that the nine arrested won't be released as those in Belgium
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Re: Politics Thread

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Re: Politics Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:05 am

more arrests ... Just 20mins ago six happy men in Belgium and another one in France
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/m ... error-plot

http://news.sky.com/story/1666632/six-a ... rror-raids
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