On the Turk demonstration:
You're right ramsej... These are people that tend to make me mad as well - even though their failed integration is probably partly on us... But clearly tgey have an identity crisis with the country they live in... There's a huge discussion going on already and while I think they have every right to demonstrate, what bothers me is: they don't allow German representatives to visit NATO troops In Turkey, while we let Erdogans inner circle in and even let them deliver speeches here... THAT's one issue where I'm with you: too **** liberal!
On the "ultimatum": yes, it is a deal with the devil... But without it, more people would come - which you're against, ramsej, right?! Also, the situation has calmed and I/we don't have to fear coup attempts and subversive ideas at the moment, which might then change again, but still: not an inch for that ****!
We'll just have to find other solutions... Restrictions, quotas, European solidarity (and not just mooching - erm, taking money - Mr. Orbàn, dear Polish and others...