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Re: World News Thread

Postby FCB general » Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:56 pm

ottackon wrote:There are three main possible explanations for the attempted coup that took place in Turkey.

The first is that this was a spontaneous coup organized by the army or the people who wanted to overthrow the government in place to render Turkey more "democratic".

The second is a false-flag operation instigated by Erdogan and his entourage in order to authorize, by repression, an increased clamping on the Turkish society.

A third, not to be overlooked, hypothesizes a coup fomented by the United States and their allies in the Middle East to expel the Turkish establishment that began to move closer to Russia. This is Alexander Dugin's hypothesis (and Erdogan's), who develops an analysis centered on the possibility of a parallel state in Turkey.

I completely agree with you. Perhaps the time will show what exactly was it about. Still, I can easily exclude the spontaneous coup because nobody can put itself in such situation to be sloppy. You plan it extraordinary or you don't do anything at all, especially when the death penalty is the price you have to pay in case of failure.

The third possibility is very likely since the dog started to correcting his mistakes with both Russia and Israel. The NATO membership is seriously compromised.

Still, that all doesn't change the facts about his active sponsorship and logistic support for ISIL and moderate cannibals over the last 5 years, spilling Kurdish blood in both Syria and Turkey, increasing islamism throughout the state and a desire to become an absolutist.
The failed coup came just perfect for him to continue with removing all of his political and social opponents and threats to his ideology and power. What comes next, only God knows but overall it's bad for Europe in any case.

The whole thing with Putin is about to press the whole Europe with Turkey for unconditional supporting USA foreign policy, at least I see this all.
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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:12 pm

I was not seeing this coming up... Putin with the Dog... Jesus Christ...
one week we have an alliance the next is gone only to a new one to be formed.
I don't want to sound too alarmist but the same was happening before WWW1and 2.
IMO it is unnatural to have Russia siding with Turkey.
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Re: World News Thread

Postby JANKER » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:15 pm

They'd **** over Turkey... or they could be doing it just to pressure the west to go on with their suicide.
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Re: World News Thread

Postby JANKER » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:18 pm

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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:46 pm

the problem is the radicalization via internet...
I guess there is a way how to catch and prosecute these pigs before they commit something...
The same is done to catch pedophiles... So why these pigs are not being caught?

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Re: World News Thread

Postby JANKER » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:00 pm

Radicalization can be stopped best if people on their own communities started to condemn radical individuals and alerted authorities. Otherwise no choice left but to generalize them all... If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor.
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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:12 pm

this rarely happens or we can say it never does.
Take as an example the wife of that man who went to kill ppl in that gay party in Orlando.
Plus the fact that Muslims are devided between them and that there is not a point of reference does not help either.
They should have two recognized leaders... such as the Pope for Roman Catholics...
The Papas for the Orthodox Christians...
One for the Sunni... and another for the Shiite ... I d like to have a mature discussion here... Many Muslims participate in this forum and I d love to see their view on this...


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Re: World News Thread

Postby JANKER » Wed Jul 20, 2016 10:15 pm

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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:04 pm

JANKER wrote:


Agreed...



Build that wall already...


Bastards and pigs... the other team should have abandoned the match instantly... Had I been the coach I would have given that order to my players...
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Re: World News Thread

Postby JANKER » Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:09 pm

Turkey - Greece...

And Turkish papers aren't "impressed" by French victims...

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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Jul 20, 2016 11:11 pm



fair enough,,,
Now can you tell us this since you hail from Egypt? How have the Christian Choptics beet treated ever since Mubarak was ousted?
Or the Christians and Iraq and Syria... ?
Unfortunately some ppl have sown the seed of hate long time ago... And here I am blaming that damned pope of Urban II who went on to lie in order to gain more power... He was the prime culprit of today's Religious wars.
Palestine in the 11th Century was heaven on earth.... Catholics, Jews and Muslims lived, worked, and traded together,,, there was respect...
The rest is history and unfortunately we can't go back...
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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:26 am

http://www.timesofmalta.com/mobile/view ... hip.619538

A nuclear powered Submarine collided wit a ship off Gibraltar.
They said no damage was reported on its nuclear thingy ....
WtF are such things doing roaming our seas?

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Re: World News Thread

Postby harry-muc » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:16 am

ramsej84 wrote:the problem is the radicalization via internet...


like in this forum? :roll:
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Re: World News Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Jul 21, 2016 11:23 am

can you elaborate pls? :lol:

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Re: World News Thread

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