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Re: the immortal players...

Postby Thiagoalcantara » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:24 pm

Team Europe is missing:

Landrup
Iniesta
Xavi

At least 2/3 should always be on team Europe.

Rather have Thierry Henry over Cristiano.
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby MUTU » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:25 pm

JANCKER wrote:Come on, he scores 5 goals against some minnows and then goes missing against real opposition.

Are you sure we're talking about Ronaldo not Messi (who never scores when his team is getting eliminated)? Ronaldo scores irrespective of whether his teams are winning or losing. I remember him scoring against Bayern when we eliminated them in 2012, Dortmund when they eliminated them in 2013 and Juventus when they eliminated them in 2015. Messi never does this. He never scores when his team gets eliminated.

Ronaldo is the opposite. He doesn't need his teammates to be playing well in order for him to score. He is, for me, the best player of all time.
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:26 pm

JANCKER wrote:Come on, he scores 5 goals against some minnows and then goes missing against real opposition.

Until it's 3-0 ;)
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby Thiagoalcantara » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:33 pm

HAHAHA. Ronaldo doesnt need good teammates to be good is the biggest BS i've ever seen....

Outside of his aerial ability, which I always said was elite (same level as prime Falcao) Cristiano isnt really elite in anything (RM version).
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby MUTU » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:37 pm

MUTU wrote:
JANCKER wrote:Come on, he scores 5 goals against some minnows and then goes missing against real opposition.

Are you sure we're talking about Ronaldo not Messi (who never scores when his team is getting eliminated)? Ronaldo scores irrespective of whether his teams are winning or losing. I remember him scoring against Bayern when we eliminated them in 2012, Dortmund when they eliminated them in 2013 and Juventus when they eliminated them in 2015. Messi never does this. He never scores when his team gets eliminated.

Ronaldo is the opposite. He doesn't need his teammates to be playing well in order for him to score. He is, for me, the best player of all time.

In fact, the last time that Ronaldo did not score in the last stage of the CL for his club was during the 2010-11 season.

2011-12: 2 goals against Bayern (1 from pen)
2012-13: 1 goal against BVB
2013-14: 1 goal against Atletico (from pen)
2014-15: 2 goals against Juventus (1 from pen)
2015-16: 1 goal against Atletico (penalty shootout)

Your argument that he goes missing against real opposition cannot possibly be more wrong...
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby MUTU » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:38 pm

Thiagoalcantara wrote:Outside of his aerial ability, which I always said was elite (same level as prime Falcao) Cristiano isnt really elite in anything (RM version).

3 out of 4 of the last Ballon d'Or results prove that your opinion isn't so popular ;)
And 2 out of the last 3 European Golden Shoe prove that your opinion doesn't conform to the statistics.
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby JANCKER » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:41 pm

Muller is more of a winger than Cristiano since he switched to RM...
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby Thiagoalcantara » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:41 pm

MUTU wrote:
Thiagoalcantara wrote:Outside of his aerial ability, which I always said was elite (same level as prime Falcao) Cristiano isnt really elite in anything (RM version).

3 out of 4 of the last Ballon d'Or results prove that your opinion isn't so popular ;)


Not really....

WHat exactly is Cristiano elite in? Outside of aerial ability?????

EXACTLY

I bet you said the same thing for RAMOS + THIAGO SILVA >BOATENG
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby MUTU » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:43 pm

JANCKER wrote:Muller is more of a winger than Cristiano since he switched to RM...

This is absurd as saying Neuer is a more offensive player than Baresi.
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby JANCKER » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:45 pm

The RM CR7 is a poor man's Van Basten...
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby MUTU » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:46 pm

Thiagoalcantara wrote:WHat exactly is Cristiano elite in? Outside of aerial ability?????

Every statistic except for teamwork and tackling. He is elite at everything else throughout different periods of his career. For example at one point he was one of the very best freekick takers in the world. Tell me, what do you think he is weak at apart from teamwork and tackling? You think he's slow? Can't dribble? Bad finishing? Low determination? I mean if he's so crap as you think he is, how come he scores so much so regularly? :lol:
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby MUTU » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:48 pm

JANCKER wrote:The RM CR7 is a poor man's Van Basten...

Yes sure, Van Basten the guy who scored 90 goals in his Milan career. Ronaldo scores 90 goals in little over a season.
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby JANCKER » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:48 pm

MUTU wrote:Can't dribble?


That is true... can't dribble and will trip over himself before successfully dribbling anyone, his latest dribble dates back in 2009.
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby Thiagoalcantara » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:50 pm

MUTU wrote:
Thiagoalcantara wrote:WHat exactly is Cristiano elite in? Outside of aerial ability?????

Every statistic except for teamwork and tackling. He is elite at everything else throughout different periods of his career. For example at one point he was one of the very best freekick takers in the world. Tell me, what do you think he is weak at apart from teamwork and tackling? You think he's slow? Can't dribble? Bad finishing? Low determination? I mean if he's so crap as you think he is, how come he scores so much so regularly? :lol:



RM version was not elite in everything...

His dribbling is average, unless you consider useless stepovers as an elite skill.
Freekicks? he use to be good, now he sucks. However, elite? never
Speed? ronnie had great speed, but not dribbling with the ball speed.
Vision: Always been average-poor
Passing: Average
FINISHING: Average

If you wanna see good dribblers, watch the REAL RONALDO.
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Re: the immortal players...

Postby MUTU » Wed Feb 22, 2017 6:53 pm

JANCKER wrote:
MUTU wrote:Can't dribble?


That is true... can't dribble and will trip over himself before successfully dribbling anyone, his latest dribble dates back in 2009.

OK, you're just a jealous hater.
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