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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:16 pm

Malti. FUTBOL

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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby FCB general » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:19 pm

JANCKER wrote:Italians: Calcio

We had Latin in High School for two years... puella est discipula.

Non nobis, Domine, non nobis, sed nomini tuo da gloriam.

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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby JANCKER » Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:28 pm

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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 5:47 pm

Unfortunately we Mediterranean hot head are renowned for our swearing ... Maltese , Sicilian and Italians (southern ones) being the most ,,,
TBH I don't know about Greece, the Balkan countries on the Adriatic and Spain, Near East and N.Africa...

Maltese swear with Religious vocabulary , sex organs and other words related to the subject, family members (both deceased & living ones)
Some also like to mix the above together to make it more original... [-X
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby Hardrade » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:10 pm

what would be the most complex commonly used swear phrases in Malta then? :D
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:12 pm

Hardrade wrote:what would be the most complex commonly used swear phrases in Malta then? :D
Everything from the above mixed with God...

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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby Hardrade » Tue Aug 08, 2017 7:31 pm

I was hoping for an example, or more of them, but nevermind :D
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Aug 08, 2017 11:32 pm

Hardrade wrote:I was hoping for an example, or more of them, but nevermind :D
It's hard to give an example because there's a lot of individual creativity behind swearing. Seriously, I'm not making this up: I know an academic who studied swear words in Maltese and concluded that it's the most fertile part of the Maltese language and thus poses a huge problem in translation, especially because what we consider to be "mild" swear words (we would say "I haven't even started swearing yet") are considered EXTREMELY serious/rude when translated literally into other languages.

I would say the most common ones are damn a certain higher being (or his mum), a phrase which kind of means FU (not exactly, it actually refers to the female sexual organ) or F the other person's mum (or that higher being's mum), and F the other person's deceased relatives.

These aren't particularly complex, but other parts are often added on. You also hear very different ones. The saints (even obscure ones) tend to be common targets.

As far as football etc. is concerned, it is very very common to hear things like "F United". I don't think people even consider it a swear word in this context anymore. It's just the normal way of saying you don't like team X.

Talk about euphemism

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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby Hardrade » Wed Aug 09, 2017 12:28 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
Hardrade wrote:I was hoping for an example, or more of them, but nevermind :D
It's hard to give an example because there's a lot of individual creativity behind swearing. Seriously, I'm not making this up: I know an academic who studied swear words in Maltese and concluded that it's the most fertile part of the Maltese language and thus poses a huge problem in translation, especially because what we consider to be "mild" swear words (we would say "I haven't even started swearing yet") are considered EXTREMELY serious/rude when translated literally into other languages.

I would say the most common ones are damn a certain higher being (or his mum), a phrase which kind of means FU (not exactly, it actually refers to the female sexual organ) or F the other person's mum (or that higher being's mum), and F the other person's deceased relatives.

These aren't particularly complex, but other parts are often added on. You also hear very different ones. The saints (even obscure ones) tend to be common targets.

As far as football etc. is concerned, it is very very common to hear things like "F United". I don't think people even consider it a swear word in this context anymore. It's just the normal way of saying you don't like team X.

Talk about euphemism

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Interesting. Oddly enough, it is very similar here, both in topics and presentation. :D

If there was a formula, it would be something like this:
1) F your X
2) I sh*t on your X
3) d*ck Y

X can vary almost indefinitely, but the most common are:
- Mother or sister (this is so common when coupled with F variant, that it is considered casual and friendly. It quickly becomes sensitive though, if it is spiced up with, say, preferred method of intercourse)
- Relatives in general, either personally or in their entirety (I F everything on your "list" would be a literal translation in this case)
- Children*(the only thing considered in very poor taste and extremely low, especially in context of them being deceased)
- Saints (this has to do with a specific tradition - every family has a personal protector saint. Considered as an "archaic" form of swearing)
- Blood, seed, tribe, grave, home, cross (again the context of relatives)

Variant 2 is very versatile in a sense that you can take a dump on anything, anytime, anywhere. Very common and casual. If you suspect the quality of something, you take a dump. If you don't like something - same again.

In variant 3, Y represents anything you want to negate in any qualitative sense. D*ck good = Bad. D*ck nice = Ugly etc...

That's like, the basic level. :D
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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Aug 09, 2017 5:07 am

It does sound similar. The sister thing is quite common here too, I forgot.

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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:30 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
Hardrade wrote:I was hoping for an example, or more of them, but nevermind :D
It's hard to give an example because there's a lot of individual creativity behind swearing. Seriously, I'm not making this up: I know an academic who studied swear words in Maltese and concluded that it's the most fertile part of the Maltese language and thus poses a huge problem in translation, especially because what we consider to be "mild" swear words (we would say "I haven't even started swearing yet") are considered EXTREMELY serious/rude when translated literally into other languages.

I would say the most common ones are damn a certain higher being (or his mum), a phrase which kind of means FU (not exactly, it actually refers to the female sexual organ) or F the other person's mum (or that higher being's mum), and F the other person's deceased relatives.

These aren't particularly complex, but other parts are often added on. You also hear very different ones. The saints (even obscure ones) tend to be common targets.

As far as football etc. is concerned, it is very very common to hear things like "F United". I don't think people even consider it a swear word in this context anymore. It's just the normal way of saying you don't like team X.

Talk about euphemism

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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:51 am

The second one seems quite international ;)

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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:57 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:The second one seems quite international ;)

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But we use it for someone who does not keep his word or for someone who does something bad (not too grievous) to us...

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Re: The BF learn-a-new-language thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat Aug 19, 2017 6:50 pm

I've found in Austria that I know much more German than I thought I did, having never formally studied it. I can grasp the meaning of most signs and written things and I can understand things here and there from overheard conversations. It's a very logical language; I've been using my limited vocabulary and context to build up the rest of the meaning.

It made me want to improve it. How the hell do I grasp that grammar with self study? Any good resources?


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