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Re: Hi! I'm a Juventus supporter...

Postby eliasov » Tue Jul 05, 2011 8:36 am

you are right but no one can change a champions league final result ... even barca won 3 underseved champions league titles and it was clear that they didn't deserve to face manure in 2009 ... after iniesta's goal ... but this is football refreeing mistakes even if it's silly mistakes still different from mafia's and everything and what happened in 2006
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Re: Hi! I'm a Juventus supporter...

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:01 pm

maryj wrote:you probably right, but I were you I would be attentive to the evolution of the events of which I have spoken :)

Of course I will be keeping an eye out just in case, but I'm more curious about what will happen the the 2006 title. I think Roma will get it.
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Re: Hi! I'm a Juventus supporter...

Postby quaazi » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:07 pm

Ah Schadenfreude how sweet are you. Inter gets it's karma comeuppance for making everyone who watched the 2010 CL commit suicide from boredom.
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Re: Hi! I'm a Juventus supporter...

Postby maryj » Tue Jul 05, 2011 4:56 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
maryj wrote:you probably right, but I were you I would be attentive to the evolution of the events of which I have spoken :)

Of course I will be keeping an eye out just in case, but I'm more curious about what will happen the the 2006 title. I think Roma will get it.


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All of them were Juventus Players.

We're waiting for an answer from Juve on recent events ;)
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Re: Hi! I'm a Juventus supporter...

Postby sch0ll7 » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:05 pm

http://www.goal.com/en/news/1717/editor ... ed-of-2006

Revealed: Inter will almost certainly be stripped of 2006 Scudetto
Calciopoli is the talk of Italy today after yesterday's astonishing revelations from FIGC chief investigator Stefano Palazzi. It is now inevitable Inter will lose their 2006 crown


By Carlo Garganese

Inter will almost certainly see their 2006 Scudetto revoked when the FIGC convene for a final meeting into their findings from the revelations of the Calciopoli II trial in Naples, but the 2010 European champions will avoid any further sanctions due to the case being out of statute.

The Italian press exploded this morning following yesterday’s revelations by the FIGC (Italian Football Federation) chief investigator Stefano Palazzi, who accused Inter of committing sporting fraud during the 2004-05 season. This had subsequently led to the Calciopoli scandal, which saw Juventus stripped of two Scudetti and relegated to Serie B, and Milan, Lazio, Fiorentina and Reggina issued point penalties for 2006-07.

Palazzi said: "Inter violated the article relative to sporting fraud with regards to the possibility of taking advantages in the standings."

The FIGC handed Palazzi the responsibility of pouring over all the evidence from the Calciopoli II trial in Naples a year ago, during which it was revealed that former Inter directors had had contact with referees and a number of other high-profile Italian football leaders between 2004 and 2006.

Transcripts from wiretaps identified by the Tribunal of Naples also demonstrated that ex-Inter president Giacinto Facchetti enjoyed regular contact with former referee designators Paolo Bergamo and Pierluigi Pairetto.


Massimo Moratti | Deemed to be a guilty party in Calciopoli

Palazzi’s findings mean that the 2006 Scudetto taken from Juventus and handed to Inter will almost certainly now be revoked from the Nerazzurri too. The confirmation of this is likely to occur on July 18 when the FIGC convene for a final meeting on the case.

Inter fans (as well as those from Milan and Livorno) will be relieved to know that this will probably be the end of the matter. As Palazzi took over a year to complete his investigation, it now means that the case is out of statute. Italy’s Statute of Limitations states that the maximum time after an event that legal proceedings can be initiated is five years.

Palazzi’s most damaging claims listed the following Calcio figures as being guilty back in 2006 of - along with Juventus - violating Article 1 of the Code of Sporting Justice:

Campedelli (Chievo), Cellino (Cagliari), Corsi (Empoli), Foschi (Palermo), Foti (Reggina), Gasparin (Vicenza), Governato (Brescia), Meani (Milan), Moratti (Inter), Spalletti (Udinese).

Palazzi also alleged that the following men should have been found guilty of violating Article 6 of the Code of Sporting Justice:

Facchetti (Inter), Meani (Milan), Spinelli (Livorno)

Article 6 violations (the attempt to gain an advantage in the standings through match-fixing or attempted match-fixing) are deemed worthy of immediate relegation. Even in the now-discredited trial of 2006, Juventus were cleared of any Article 6 violations, and were only demoted due to a combination of Article 1 violations (unsportsmanlike conduct, which can be anything from swearing on the pitch to excessively calling Bergamo and Pairetto), misdemeanours that had never before resulted in anything more than fines or, at most, a minor points penalty.

Thus, according to the findings of the FIGC’s chief investigator, it is Inter, Milan and Livorno who should have been relegated in 2006 and not Juventus.

But, due to the Statute of Limitations, there will be no further punishment. While Juventus will emerge as moral winners after a five-year struggle for justice, their current owners will not embark on the road for compensation for their wrongful relegation. With John Elkann's administration having made big sponsorship deals with Inter-influenced companies TIM and La Gazzetta dello Sport, there is zero possibility of action.

Inter president Massimo Moratti this morning described Palazzi’s claims as an “unacceptable attack”.

But come July 18 his club need a miracle to hold on to the 2006 Scudetto. Even if the title isn't stripped on that date, it seems only a matter of time until it will be. The Scudetto won't be assigned elsewhere. Instead, the championship will represent another blank year in history, just like 2005.
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Re: Hi! I'm a Juventus supporter...

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Jul 05, 2011 5:21 pm

sch0ll7 wrote:Thus, according to the findings of the FIGC’s chief investigator, it is Inter, Milan and Livorno who should have been relegated in 2006 and not Juventus.


And Milan went on to win the CL that season...
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Re: Hi! I'm a Juventus supporter...

Postby MUTU » Wed Jul 06, 2011 11:03 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
sch0ll7 wrote:Thus, according to the findings of the FIGC’s chief investigator, it is Inter, Milan and Livorno who should have been relegated in 2006 and not Juventus.


And Milan went on to win the CL that season...


Thanks to:
- clear penalty not given for a blatant handsball by Maldini against Celtic
- non-existent penalty given for a tackle by Lucio on Kaka against Bayern
- goal from offside by Inzaghi in the 2nd leg against Bayern
- clear penalty not given to Manchester United
- goal by Inzaghi in the final using his hands

It really looks to me like the match-fixing was not limited to the Serie A.
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Re: Hi! I'm a Juventus supporter...

Postby quaazi » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:25 pm

Well, yes, sure there are two Milanese clubs that have scored from offside against us in knockout stages in the last, what, 5 years, but we've had our lucky moment too, after all.

I don't think the CL games were fixed, just incompetently refereed (like most football nowadays :P).
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