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Re: German members...

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:54 pm

#12 wrote:So what do you propose? I think it’s important to remain a nation of law - and I see no way this could’ve been prevented doing so...

As for the Berlin thing:
Yet to be seen... They incarcerated a few persons, but it seems they have no real proof... One was apparently involved as a witness in the Amri case, but so far they got nothing on these guys...
Might be one of those cases where they struck too early, although it’s better than too late...
If they have the slightest of suspicion no matter what the law says they should never be released.

For non German born offenders = expulsion should be effected.

If he is German born. arrested and make sure that nobody finds the keys

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Re: German members...

Postby #12 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:38 pm

He’s as German as it gets - by your definition, not mine
You cannot just arrest people based on mere suspicion or because they are known to the police?! What kind of understanding of the law is that??
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Re: German members...

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:09 pm

#12 wrote:He’s as German as it gets - by your definition, not mine
You cannot just arrest people based on mere suspicion or because they are known to the police?! What kind of understanding of the law is that??
Mine... which is not politically correct

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Re: German members...

Postby #12 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:17 pm

I'm not a revolutionary, I think we should keep without reasonable bounds, but hey, I despise overly PC as much as the next guy...

However, it’s just BS to talk about a bloodline and whatnot defining a German (or anyone else fir that matter)... I DO think however, that "being" German is more than JUST qualifying for a passport... You should have a feel and definitely a certain affinity to customs and way of life... Identify with it... And you should definitely respect and obey the law...
If a person fulfills these aspects, they’re German to me...

Emancipation and women’s equality (there’s a difference!) for example, don’t get me started on those!!!
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Re: German members...

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:44 pm

#12 wrote:I'm not a revolutionary, I think we should keep without reasonable bounds, but hey, I despise overly PC as much as the next guy...

However, it’s just BS to talk about a bloodline and whatnot defining a German (or anyone else fir that matter)... I DO think however, that "being" German is more than JUST qualifying for a passport... You should have a feel and definitely a certain affinity to customs and way of life... Identify with it... And you should definitely respect and obey the law...
If a person fulfills these aspects, they’re German to me...

Emancipation and women’s equality (there’s a difference!) for example, don’t get me started on those!!!
I didn't really comprehend your post.
But the problem is Religion.
Some decided to follow their own rules.
In fact I have seen a lot of docs were Muslims declared that there is no law other than the Koran and the word of Allah.
Therfore your laws are there for no use for (most) them...
They practice Sharia law, they practice arranged(forced) weddings, they marry more than one, and unfortunately we also heard about the honour killings.
The latter tbh I only heard about it in italy.

With all due respect to the Muslim community in this forum. But they know what I am talking about.
That is why practicing muslims don't sing the National anthem... cause for them means nothing

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Re: German members...

Postby #12 » Mon Apr 09, 2018 8:09 pm

Cause I meant within not without

The second part was about pc and not Muslims and immigration...

I still think it’s not - for the majority... Of course there are black sheep...
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Re: German members...

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:55 pm

Viktor Orban is a regular guest in Bavaria
https://youtu.be/F8DYEPDRYu0
Video by DW, before the coalition talks were concluded

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Re: German members...

Postby #12 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:48 pm

You wanted our money, we didn’t force it on you... :coffee:
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Re: German members...

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Apr 15, 2018 9:10 am

Islam has no place in our society, German Govt representative
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Re: German members...

Postby Bayernbazi » Tue May 08, 2018 12:58 pm

This is a very interesting development and I don't think I've seen any discussion about it yet - but if I'm mistaken just let me know and I'll delete.
It looks like Bavaria is about to implement legislation to widen police powers which is causing discomfort.
Even football ultras are protesting. If you've ever seen a banner saying 'NEIN ZUM PAG' , this is what it's all about.
One wonders if this a result of closing the gate after the unregulated horses from the middle east have bolted ?
As usual, the authorities' 'mistakes' are compensated by eroding liberty with the excuse of protecting dumb average Joe.

Football fans in Germany protest against Bavaria's new police law

Bayern Ultras plan a protest against PAG on Thursday [GERMAN] (use google translate :wink: )
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Re: German members...

Postby #12 » Tue May 08, 2018 8:24 pm

Also: Has ramseij seen the new German crime statistics that were made public today by Horst Seehofer?
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Re: German members...

Postby nm462272 » Tue May 08, 2018 8:28 pm

#12 wrote:Also: Has ramseij seen the new German crime statistics that were made public today by Horst Seehofer?


you know it pained Seehofer to admit that crime decreased by so much ;) but it does call to the foreground what is becoming a big issue... perception versus reality. For some reason, whether its innocent or nefarious, people are being made to think they are in danger... when in fact, they're as safe as they have been in 20 something years.
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Re: German members...

Postby #12 » Tue May 08, 2018 9:12 pm

Also, the statistics showed that refugees DID commit crimes... For ramseij and others it’s rape, murder and terrorism...

While it is not a good thing and should still be fought, I think we can all agree that the crmes they’re actually committing most are much less severe: petty theft...
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Re: German members...

Postby ramsej84 » Tue May 08, 2018 10:16 pm

#12 wrote:Also, the statistics showed that refugees DID commit crimes... For ramseij and others it’s rape, murder and terrorism...

While it is not a good thing and should still be fought, I think we can all agree that the crmes they’re actually committing most are much less severe: petty theft...
Please differ Refugees from economic migrants and parasites

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Re: German members...

Postby #12 » Tue May 08, 2018 10:22 pm

Why do you demand for us to differentiate when you generalize literally about everything?

They’re in there... It’s the whole group of refugees, that’s the beauty of general crime statistics: they do not exclude anyone ;)
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