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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Firefox1234 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:23 pm

With the conflct in Gaza worsening I was curious to know how people herre felt about it. Personally i dont like how both sides let it get this bad with Hamas pretty much using civilans as hostages in their ploy for change through violence and Israel showing little to know restraint in killing civilians to get to them, while trying to convince the world killing innocent people is the right thing to do. In my opinion only through talking it out can this be solved in the long term or millions of people will be killed as the solution.

Im not the most informed person on this but the way i see this playing out is that Israel will drive out the Palestinians one way or another(killing most likely)since they have the means to do so. What im curious to see is how they will justify the removal of a mass amount of people like the Americans and Europeans did when they killed and enslaved indigenous people back in the 18th and 19th century.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:30 pm

The sad thing is is that this has become big news now because it is worsening quickly, but this whole thing has been going on for a very long time, with too many people unaware.

Neither side can be said to be doing the right thing. However, I must admit I have less sympathy for what Israel is doing.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Firefox1234 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:39 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:The sad thing is is that this has become big news now because it is worsening quickly, but this whole thing has been going on for a very long time, with too many people unaware.

Neither side can be said to be doing the right thing. However, I must admit I have less sympathy for what Israel is doing.


I dont agree with what Israel is doing either and it makes me angry that most people who say they support Israel especially in the USA dont know either. Sadly Hamas and past Arab incursions are also to blame for forcing Israel's hand into committing these acts. In my opinion they are like the kid who got bullied all throughout grade school after a huge growth sprout now fighting back. In my opinion Israel should be the metaphorical "bigger man" and sit down and talk but its hard to blame them for past resentment.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:51 pm

I've been wondering whether I shall write about this here for a long time... A decade ago I was all in favour of the US foreign policy and Israel, however I matured and now I am seeing things from a different perspective and I do not believe what the Zionist media feed us...
The state of israel was created by the British in order to compensate them for what happened during WWII. Thus creating one of the worst ever conflicts. Through their wealth, support and knowledge they drove off the arabs whom were there for more than 2000 years.
Nobody ever speaks against Israel... and this is because they are backed by the big boys and because they control everything...
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and what about the other conflict in Ukraine? The USA & EU triggered that conflict... which awoke a giant volcano...

I am siding with Russia here too I am of the opinion that the unfortunate Malaysian jet was shot down by the Ukrainian Govt.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby Firefox1234 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:57 pm

ramsej84 wrote:Nobody ever speaks against Israel


This really spoke out to me and its shocking once you really think about it. I think most ppl are afraid to speak out against Israel in fear if being labeled as some type of Nazi, anti semitic, or pro Hamas. Imagine if Germany for example raised support for Palestine, the pro Israel media would have a field day with that!
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 6:38 pm

this has to stop. As I said it is difficult because they have their fingers all over... maybe even here...
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby runaway » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:21 pm

Whoever is to blame in both Hamas and Ukraine-Russia conflicts... I'm appalled that this still is allowed to happen today. We didn't learn from history and things are going to worsen because of the military equipment today.

Did you see that pic of a sniper rifle targeting a child posted by an Israeli soldier posted?

The bodies of the victims left to rot on a train station...

China is also doing this to my country. Trying to get teritories by force that is not in any law theirs just because the body of water is named after them.

All of these instances because of territory. It's not about religion or whatever, it all comes down to greed.

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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:37 pm

runaway wrote:Whoever is to blame in both Hamas and Ukraine-Russia conflicts... I'm appalled that this still is allowed to happen today. We didn't learn from history and things are going to worsen because of the military equipment today.

Did you see that pic of a sniper rifle targeting a child posted by an Israeli soldier posted?

The bodies of the victims left to rot on a train station...

China is also doing this to my country. Trying to get teritories by force that is not in any law theirs just because the body of water is named after them.

All of these instances because of territory. It's not about religion or whatever, it all comes down to greed.

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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby FCB general » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:42 pm

runaway wrote:All of these instances because of territory. It's not about religion or whatever, it all comes down to greed.

The worst thing in all, it's always a 3rd side.

I mean... Who has an interest to obstruct basic human rights to my people in Bosnia and Herzegovina for the last 19 years?

BiH is trying to become a state, but it simply doesn't functioning and it won't. Politicans have been playing on nacionalist card for the last 19 years and they're gonna play in future.

My people can elect their representatives even though they are the one of the three constitutional nations in BiH because the numbers are on side of Bosniaks, the biggest population in the land.

International protectorate since 1995 and foreign representatives are just watching what's going on and they won't change anything despite their power to change something. Washington is not going to help anyone, I guess they're waiting for new crisis so they can once again after 1995 become a main protagonist in the creation of piece.

That's sick, but so called High representative can enjoy during his mandate on the bh. budget, drink expensive vines, eat in the resturants, have expensive cars and act like "El Rey". :thumbdown:

50 milion Kurds don't have a independent state on their historic areas, what else are we talking about?

But PROFIT and homo-liberal demoncracy must march on and people will be demonized, diciplined or serve as a cannon fodder for their power and pockets. Well done! :clap: West is perfect and beautiful, better than God's heaven, but East is bad, evil, barbaric, sick, etc. How yes no... :lol: These main-stream media immediately after the accident know who is guilty, like always. I remember the unsuccessful Chavez overthrow. Sick and pervert actions to shot on your own people just to get in the possession of power. :roll:

This is bullshít in what we all live today, but we've got no other choice than keep running and fighting every day. :|
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby lau03143 » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:48 pm

What do you mean by "homo-liberalised"?
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby JANKER » Tue Jul 22, 2014 11:59 pm

Only the dead have seen the end of war.

What is tolerance? It is the consequence of humanity. We are all formed of frailty and error; let us pardon reciprocally each other's folly - that is the first law of nature.

War's one of those things, don't you think, where everyone always thinks they're in the right have you noticed that? Nobody ever says we're the bad guys, we're going to beat shit out of the good guys.

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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby theundead » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:17 am

What bugs me about the Gaza conflict is that it is being portrayed as Self-defense this time around by the Israeli regime.

Excuse me, but the land is illegally captured by Israel and before that the British. The British allowed Israeli settlers to settle there and since then the Palestinian controlled land is constantly decreasing. What would you do if a foreign power does that to your country, kills your young ones and rapes your women?

When someone talks against the state of Israel, they are promptly labelled as Nazis and anti-Semites. I ask one thing; how is the Nazi state different from Israel? Nazis killed the Jews (and everybody that wasn't a Nazi) and now the Israelis are killing everyone that aren't Israeli. Ethnic cleansing is going on in Palestine at the moment. The Palestinian people will be dead when Israel is done with them.

Hamas is a product of Israeli brutality. Period.
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby FCB general » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:17 am

lau03143 wrote:What do you mean by "homo-liberalised"?

Imperialism, hypocrisy, double standards, dictatorship, main stream shít lies, quasi science, corruption of institutions, brain wash, etc, etc.

I mean - lies, lies and just lies everywhere. Reminds me on two men in the last century and one today's country in this planet which is something what so called West tends to, but on completely different way with the same target.

If somebody doesn't stop those groups, I don't see any way for people to protect their dignity and freedom than using force.

I see what they are trying to do about Scottish independance, disgrace! For what? Who are they[West politicians] to lead propaganda against one people and nation, in this case yours?
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby DerKaiser » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:34 am

Im sorry but i cannot accept the hardcore religion of islam, it is from the stone age, repressing women to nothing! In this day and age it is completely unacceptable and such beliefs should be eliminated without pause
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Re: General Chat Thread

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Jul 23, 2014 9:56 am

ramsej84 wrote:I am siding with Russia here too I am of the opinion that the unfortunate Malaysian jet was shot down by the Ukrainian Govt

I believe the Americans had something to do with it, but it is all conspiracy at this point. There were a lot of AIDS specialists on the plane too and I don't exclude that someone wanted them dead. Money rules the world.

I agree with Putin on a few things (Immigrants should live like Russians, for example). However on the whole I am against Russia.
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