MUTU wrote:Why bullshit? This is the option that the Catholic Church preaches. If you're gay, you should not act upon it, that's what they say. In fact there were some rumours that the previous Pope (Benedikt) is gay. That's OK for the Church, as long as he remains single.
MUTU wrote:Still, this is an option. Living a lie. I personally know of two people who, at the age of over 50, their partners left them and the family because they finally decided to come out and admit that they're gay/lesbian. Their life was a sham, and can you imagine the effect it had on the poor partner and kids?
MUTU wrote:Depends. In some places, they will literally kill you. If you're homosexual, you can't be public about it and live in such countries, or you'd soon be murdered.
MUTU wrote:Whatever the reasons are, religions still don't accept you.
MUTU wrote:The problem is that if there was a worldwide study, I'd say most people in the world don't even tolerate them. I'm like you, I don't fully accept them. As in, I don't mind seeing a guy and a girl kissing. And I certainly don't mind seeing two girls kissing . But I feel uneasy/disgusted seeing two guys kissing. I guess it's a small form of homophobia. Or maybe because society conditioned me to think it's taboo and wrong, and if people were more open about it and more open-minded, then perhaps it would feel normal.
FCB general wrote:What happens then when you have homos in Church? Pedophilia! Of course, people in my country always mention priests and little boys. Always the boys, so I figured out to mess around with those people and say, why don't they do the same with girls and when was the last time when you read that girls were in those actions? They have looked confused and asked me what kind of a question is that. Then I've repeated the question, they couldn't recall. Then I told, "see, every time you say there are boys, no girls". Coincidence? Not at all. Then I told them every time you see that pedophilia you always see boys, clear homos who can't abstain and stay normal when they see male children, so they take them for their victims, they can't touch straight guys. No wonder, everything would be exposed, they might get many times fist in the head.
MUTU wrote:AdepT wrote:About the girl part, hahaha. Same here.
Now if you were adopted by a lesbian couple, you'd probably not look at lesbians in the same way haha
MUTU wrote:FCB general wrote:What happens then when you have homos in Church? Pedophilia! Of course, people in my country always mention priests and little boys. Always the boys, so I figured out to mess around with those people and say, why don't they do the same with girls and when was the last time when you read that girls were in those actions? They have looked confused and asked me what kind of a question is that. Then I've repeated the question, they couldn't recall. Then I told, "see, every time you say there are boys, no girls". Coincidence? Not at all. Then I told them every time you see that pedophilia you always see boys, clear homos who can't abstain and stay normal when they see male children, so they take them for their victims, they can't touch straight guys. No wonder, everything would be exposed, they might get many times fist in the head.
Actually the real answer lies in the laws of probability. Not denying that there's pedo priests but the reason they're sexually abusing boys and not girls is not because they're also gays but because they have more access to relationships with boys, with which to escalate it into a sexual one. At least in the Catholic Church, all church helpers have to be boys.
If some people are really horny and desperate, they can resort to such atrocities as paedophilia, and priests find it hard because they're meant to control their desires. And sometimes it gets the better of them. But homosexuality is not the issue here... if they just can't help it, they'll do it with whoever is available. Since they're more exposed to meeting young boys, they're more likely to do it with young boys. Homosexuality plays no issue here. In fact, if they change the rules such that priests are more exposed to girls than to boys, I am ready to bet that the amount of pedo priests would at least double
Let's say you have a sister and you grow up together in normal circumstanses. You two are both teenagers...she is 18 you are 20. She is also a hottie. Do you feel attracted to your sister like you do to other girls around...like your neighbor or some girl at school?
No you dont. If you do there is something wrong with you.
ANd than on the other hand we have...you and your sisters split when you were both babies...you never got to know your sister because she lived some 1000km away from you...than you go to college and you meet a nice girl and you two fell in love and than someone says to you...she is your sister you cant do that. But somehow you both are still in love with eachother.
Thailand [not western country]...has more than 250.000 transexuals. Other countries [neighbors Vietnam, Laos, Kambodia, Myamar] that have similar culture, religion probably have 10000x less transexuals.
Is it possible that Thai people are born that way that they feel trapped in mens body..so they want to act as a women...while in Laos and Kambodia people dont feel the same? There is a clear proof that it has nothing to do with genetics.
Even bigger problem in Thailand is that MEN that are not transexuals are attracted to them and are marrying them, date them, have sex with them because they are more attracted to them than thai women. How many straight people do you know that would have sex with transexual? I gues noone. But in Thailand things went that far that straight man that are married and have children...have sex with transexual from time to time. You can also find small boys selling themselfs on the streets...and it is all quite normal in big cities.
sch0ll7 wrote:MUTU tried to convince us that being gays are that way from the moment they are born. Because of the genetics.
FCB general wrote:sch0ll7 wrote:MUTU tried to convince us that being gays are that way from the moment they are born. Because of the genetics.
Question is: Where is/are that/those homo gene(s)? I read a lot of articles and forum discussions, saw a lot of things but nobody haven't precisely told which genes are homo genes?
I still share an opinion that is a choice, not a destiny which you get right away you come out of the mothe's uterine.
You said earlier, where have those big numbers on this planet came from? 100-150 years ago there weren't that much that kind of people.
ramsej84 wrote: he once told us that he was not aware that there are other sexual preferences rather then the heterosexuals !!!!
FCBayernMunchen wrote:Well it is said that inbreeding increases the risk of genetic diseases down the line so there is an explanation why it is not legal. But homosexual couples cannot reproduce anyway, so the reason cannot be the same.
I am not sure whether or not there are biological reasons which make siblings falling in love with each other abnormal. I believe that in this case it is conditioning. You'll have known your sister for a very long time before puberty (and if not, there must be a big age gap). Of course you can find exceptions, but think about it: people don't often fall in love with a friend of the opposite sex whom they've known since they were 2 years old either. I think that when you get so used to the person before hitting the age of puberty it kind of removes that sexual attraction, although there are exceptions like everything in life.
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