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Re: Italian football

Postby quaazi » Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:40 pm

MUTU wrote:So it has to be a biological trait? So how about this:

"Blacks are generally better athletes"

That racist?!


Basically, yeah. Making beer is more of a cultural phenomenon.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Firefox1234 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 12:56 pm

Im black and people always joke about me being athletic for it, tbh i never really think about it as racist but technically it is a racist remark
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Re: Italian football

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:40 pm

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... white.html
bullying is another sort of racism.
To conclude as I said earlier if one calls names and stuff to another one I don't think it is an act of racism.
Racism is when you chose someone on other one just because of the reasons listed earlier...
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Re: Italian football

Postby MUTU » Fri Oct 11, 2013 1:54 pm

quaazi wrote:
MUTU wrote:So it has to be a biological trait? So how about this:

"Blacks are generally better athletes"

That racist?!


Basically, yeah. Making beer is more of a cultural phenomenon.

I'm just stating fact. If several studies pointing towards more leg muscles is not enough, just take a look at the Olympic athletes which do best.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Firefox1234 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:01 pm

Okay, i know i started this but we are all so off topic thats its not even funny :mrgreen:
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Re: Italian football

Postby AdepT » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:08 pm

Firefox1234 wrote:Okay, i know i started this but we are all so off topic thats its not even funny :mrgreen:

Considering that it's being discussed under Italian Football, I wouldn't necessarily call it off-topic. :P
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Re: Italian football

Postby quaazi » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:22 pm

The difference of course being that in Italy, fan groups are chanting racist remarks with clearly derogatory intent. While inherent implied racism stemming from some old stereotypes is an elephant in the room that's (mostly) harmless, their crap is straight out.
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Re: Italian football

Postby Firefox1234 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 2:54 pm

Didnt spanish football used to have a major problem with racism? I dont hear as many cases anymore.....
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Re: Italian football

Postby Borusse » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:05 pm

Its good to have some grown up conversations once in a while. It never meant to be funny but educating.
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Re: Italian football

Postby BayernLove » Fri Oct 11, 2013 3:49 pm

ramsej84 wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2283777/Boy-9-hanged-bullied-white.html
bullying is another sort of racism.
To conclude as I said earlier if one calls names and stuff to another one I don't think it is an act of racism.
Racism is when you chose someone on other one just because of the reasons listed earlier...

That is utterly heartbreaking.
It's shameful to think that this isn't an isolated case but many like it are often ignored in favour of "whitey is evil" opposite cases.
Not to mention the fact that in society today "that's so white" is acceptable and a complete laugh while "that's so black" is disgusting blatant racism.
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Re: Toni Kroos

Postby Bazi » Fri Oct 11, 2013 4:28 pm

Well Honigstein is shit when it comes to player transfer rumors.

However when we're comparing him to B/R and goal.com even Honigstein and Marcotti are football experts of the highest order.
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Re: Toni Kroos

Postby quaazi » Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:12 am

Honigstein is a superb writer, but a mediocre journalist.
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Re: Toni Kroos

Postby tflags » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:31 pm

quaazi wrote:Honigstein is a superb writer, but a mediocre journalist.


For a mediocre journalist, you seem to read him a lot.
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Re: Toni Kroos

Postby Firefox1234 » Sat Oct 12, 2013 12:32 pm

Well this has gone way off topic :P
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Re: Toni Kroos

Postby Bazi » Sat Oct 12, 2013 2:05 pm

Ironically only a couple of months ago I had to argue with other Bayern fans whether Toni Kroos has what it takes to play the #8 position yet. There were the usual 'lazy phlegmatic', too weak defensively arguments etc. Now only 3-4 months later Toni Kroos is shining more brightly than ever before and found his best position on the #8 under Pep Guardiola's guidance. His tackling and ability to dispossess the opponents also significantly improved.

Imo he's even outshining Ilkay Gündogan. This development is just great.
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