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[2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:00 pm

Germany will win
3
60%
It will end in a draw
1
20%
Poland will win
1
20%
 
Total votes : 5

Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby DerKaiser » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:49 pm

Solid game though Poland defending well, germany as well. Khedira and Kroos need to swap positions. Bring in Gomez!!

im amazed at the techinical skills of both teams, the tempo of passing , trapping is quite impressive
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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:49 pm

quaazi wrote:Well, so far, Höwedes has been actually detrimental to his team going forward, Hummels and Kroos oddly error-prone (well, maybe not so oddly), Hector showing good work-rate but nothing else, Khedira simply not on the same wavelength, Özil and Götze once again completely invisible, Draxler for some reason occupying space between three Polish defenders and Müller, despite a few bright moments like his pass to Kroos, just inable to provide danger by himself.

So, they're kinda crap, the lot of them.

Expect it to change in the second half though. :coffee:

Seem more solid at the back and in midfield (defending duties) though, to be fair.
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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby quaazi » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:50 pm

I think playing Özil and Götze in the center at the same time is cramping the two players too much. False nines, apart from Messi, work when there are determined runners to exploit the space he creates (think Ballack circa 2002). Kroos and Özil are not those players, and Khedira is asked too much of in this situation. Either play Müller behind the false nine or no-one at all, bringing an extra central midfielder into play.
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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby quaazi » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:51 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Seem more solid at the back and in midfield (defending duties) though, to be fair.

Yeah, that's why I expect things to change in the second half. There's a clear theme of conservative play, no doubt thanks to the kamikaze defending against Ukraine. But Germany will probably want to open up soon, though I'm not sure if the players can handle it right now.
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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby JANCKER » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:51 pm

Mueller in Goetze's position, please...
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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:52 pm

quaazi wrote:I think playing Özil and Götze in the center at the same time is cramping the two players too much. False nines, apart from Messi, work when there are determined runners to exploit the space he creates (think Ballack circa 2002). Kroos and Özil are not those players, and Khedira is asked too much of in this situation. Either play Müller behind the false nine or no-one at all, bringing an extra central midfielder into play.

There shouldn't be a false nine at all, considering Gotze has NEVER played well there in a significant game. It should be either Muller as a forward with Gotze on the wing (with the current lineup) or Gomez as striker, Muller behind him and Ozil/Gotze on the wing. Muller has played centrally all this season since we now have winger backups.
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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby JANCKER » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:54 pm

Play Kimmich at RB... show some guts Loew.
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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Jun 16, 2016 8:56 pm

He's honestly the most conservative coach of any top team, club and country.
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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby PunkCapitalist » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:03 pm

I think he just doesnt see him there. If he thought Kimmich as a RB was even a possibility, he should have tried him before the tournament. Competitive fixtures are no place to try position switches :-/

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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby DerKaiser » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:06 pm

Müller and Götze switched! good call
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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby tflags » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:18 pm

Jesus even the camera man is asking for Gomez.
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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby PunkCapitalist » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:30 pm

Schürrle... Wow, Löw must surely be the most frustrating coach on earth...

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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby thephalanx » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:38 pm

Maybe Scweini can bring some inspiration to these lifeless c_nts :coffee:
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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby ottackon » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:44 pm

Muller is so useless, unbelievable.
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Re: [2016-06-16] Germany vs Poland

Postby thephalanx » Thu Jun 16, 2016 9:45 pm

Another snoozfest
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