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[2016-07-07] France vs Germany

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Thu Jul 07, 2016 8:00 pm

France will go through to the final inside 90 minutes
1
6%
France will go through to the final after extra time
1
6%
France will go through to the final on penalties
0
No votes
Germany will go through to the final on penalties
0
No votes
Germany will go through to the final after extra time
4
25%
Germany will go through to the final inside 90 minutes
10
63%
 
Total votes : 16

Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby icewizard » Tue Jul 05, 2016 10:16 am

I like ramsej84's and MUTU's formations... but i'll add my extra twist to it...



and if we attack right/left side, Kimmich/Hector and one of the CAM's should be on the right side, Müller near post or by the penalty spot, the other CAM being at the far post, and Kroos bringing support around the D of the surface, while having a defensive 4 with Hector/Kimmich standing closer to the defensive line, and Höwedes/Mustafi covering for Kimmich/Hector.

And if we have a Boateng surge up front, like a sweeper going forward, we should have the defense getting back to a 4 manned defense, or with Can covering one of the full backs if he goes up front.

And when one of the CAM's got the ball in an attacking position, the other one should offer attacking options on the side or up front, closer to Müller's line, which will give more alternatives to the ball owning CAM.

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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby MUTU » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:13 am

I'm surprised you guys liked it :D I thought y'all offend me :P
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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby MUTU » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:15 am

Kicker's formation! Very close to ours but with Weigl instead of Can.

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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby tflags » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:17 am

Time for Lord Weigl to rise. Because they Can't.
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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby Achilles » Tue Jul 05, 2016 11:44 am

Kicker's formation is super soft in my eyes, Germany need some muscle there, the possesion will be at top level but the trio of Kante-Matuidi-Pogba doesn't care, they can run all day to break Germany's midfield with their athleticism and Kante's fantastic tactical awareness plus Matuidi's toughness.

Jogi Low must be extremely cautious, with these crucial absences France will go on Atletico mode meaning defending deep,physicality,toughness and pressing so they can hit on the counter with Griezmann,Payet plus another speed demon. I can't believe that France will play so naive & offensive football against Germany until now they have played against second & third tier teams now the boss is Germany in every aspect of the game but I'm holding back because of the injuries +Hummels absence. Four players at once absent in a semifinal after 120' game against a top team playing at home is tricky and a difficult task even for Germany. If Die Mannschaft were at full force I'd bet that they are already in the final.
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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:06 pm

exactly my thoughts... achilles.
Who is going to bully their midfield? Weigl in my eyes looks like a 12 year old... he has the technique and all but he can't play in a euro semi final vs Pogba and Matiudi and possibly even Kante.
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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:08 pm

Achilles wrote:Kicker's formation is super soft in my eyes, Germany need some muscle there, the possesion will be at top level but the trio of Kante-Matuidi-Pogba doesn't care, they can run all day to break Germany's midfield with their athleticism and Kante's fantastic tactical awareness plus Matuidi's toughness.

Jogi Low must be extremely cautious, with these crucial absences France will go on Atletico mode meaning defending deep,physicality,toughness and pressing so they can hit on the counter with Griezmann,Payet plus another speed demon. I can't believe that France will play so naive & offensive football against Germany until now they have played against second & third tier teams now the boss is Germany in every aspect of the game but I'm holding back because of the injuries +Hummels absence. Four players at once absent in a semifinal after 120' game against a top team playing at home is tricky and a difficult task even for Germany. If Die Mannschaft were at full force I'd bet that they are already in the final.


yes, amazing how soft and descending their road was... Eire and Iceland before the semis !!!
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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:14 pm

MUTU wrote:Kicker's formation! Very close to ours but with Weigl instead of Can.


I'm torn between this one or having Schurrle/Sane/Gotze instead of Mustafi. You've already outlined the good sides of this formation but it might have one too many changes in defence.
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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:41 pm

what if Weigl Can and Kroos play together to suffocate their trio ... ?
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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby MUTU » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:46 pm

ramsej84 wrote:what if Weigl Can and Kroos play together to suffocate their trio ... ?

Only two offensive-minded players?
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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 12:55 pm

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:what if Weigl Can and Kroos play together to suffocate their trio ... ?

Only two offensive-minded players?


Germany showed that its strength (in this tournament) is the defense and they should continue to work on that.
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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby ottackon » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:14 pm

I think the best strategy to beat France, is to press them high on the pitch while confiscating the ball because defensively, they are weak, both in central defense and on the sides. In fact, Germany must win the midfield's battle and the offensive contribution of the Hector-Kimmich duo will be decisive.
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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby MUTU » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:17 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:what if Weigl Can and Kroos play together to suffocate their trio ... ?

Only two offensive-minded players?


Germany showed that its strength (in this tournament) is the defense and they should continue to work on that.

If they showed strength in defence, then why do they need to consolidate it and weaken the attack even further?
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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:24 pm

to win 1-0
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Re: [2016-07-07] France vs Germany

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Tue Jul 05, 2016 1:43 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:what if Weigl Can and Kroos play together to suffocate their trio ... ?

Only two offensive-minded players?


Germany showed that its strength (in this tournament) is the defense and they should continue to work on that.

Too exaggerated. Honestly I think Pogba will handle himself for Germany. :lol:
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