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[2017-11-10] England vs Germany

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Fri Nov 10, 2017 9:00 pm

England will win
2
29%
It will end in a draw
2
29%
Germany will win
3
43%
 
Total votes : 7

Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby RedQueen » Fri Nov 10, 2017 12:28 am

According to the Bundes-Jogi, Halstenberg will start against England and either Khedira or Hummels will have the captain's badge.

The result is irrelevant, as long as the Bundes-Jogi gets the information he needs.
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Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby America USA » Fri Nov 10, 2017 1:13 am

I just want Germany to end this year undefeated. I’ll take a 1-0 win over the English at their home ground in a heartbeat!
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Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby RedQueen » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:06 pm

"Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!" - Red Queen, Alice - Through the Looking-Glass
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Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby Manchu » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:16 pm


I really don't like this starting lineup. The last time Low tried something like it(against the Czech Republic away) there wasn't enough control of the midfield even with Kroos playing, and having Werner as your center forward somewhat defeats the point of having wingbacks. Also, Draxler+Sane as attacking center midfields doesn't seem like a good pairing as they are both best as wingers, and if they stay wide and have Ozil play as a 10 it kind of defeats the point of having wingbacks.

Ultimately, I am still not convinced that there is a better formation the the 4-2-3-1 for Germany although the 3-5-2-1 was interesting against Azerbaijan. Of course, if Low is playing a trick on me and has Kimmich as CM while Ginter is RB, that would answer all my criticisms.
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Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:52 pm

Wtf is doing in that line up and in that position????


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Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:56 pm

Gundogan was murmuring something!
Wow... good sign...
But it seems that Mesut remains loyal to the Dog...

What a contrast... Germans are so ashamed to sing their NT...

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Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Nov 10, 2017 8:59 pm

Happy Poppy Day by the way...
P.S there were no boos maybe in respect for this thing they are doing now...
Very touching by the way

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Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby Roonzil » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:59 pm

Hummels back to Munich asap please. He looked exhausted.
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Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby FCB12Forever » Fri Nov 10, 2017 10:59 pm

I think this game only justifies the need for the Nations League..
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Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby Lukas » Fri Nov 10, 2017 11:21 pm

ramsej84 wrote:Happy Poppy Day by the way...
P.S there were no boos maybe in respect for this thing they are doing now...
Very touching by the way

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Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby Manchu » Sat Nov 11, 2017 4:31 am

bmguy wrote:
Manchu wrote:If you're going to try this formation with these players, then Brandt makes more sense as the 10, Rudy makes more sense as Gundogan's partner, and Ginter is a better choose as a starter than Rudiger, not to mention that Gotze is probably going to start both games.


you seems not to like Draxler, I'm not his fan as well, but he's developed well this season. His passing rate for PSG is 92.9 % according to https://www.whoscored.com/Players/96449 ... an-Draxler

whereas Gotze has done almost nothing this season. https://www.whoscored.com/Players/80382 ... G%C3%B6tze

He might get dropped at the end if Dortmund and himself do not stand up the show :roll: (not sure my english is correct here :D)


I'm not going to go into details about what I think the various strengths of Gotze* and Draxler are as players(well, at least not unless you want me to), but I would like to make a point about passing completion. People often take it as a measure of how good a passer a player is, but it actually mainly a measure of how many easy passes(particularly backward and sideways passes) a player makes. Often times, you want an attacking player to have a lower passing completion rate because this indicates they are trying to make difficult passes like threading throughballs through the defense or crossing the ball, while you want a regista type like Kroos to have a high passing completion rate because they are not supposed to lose the ball in front of the defense. Thus, passing completion as a statistic contains useful information, but most people assume it reveals more than it does.

*For example, by one metric Gotze is the second most creative player in the Bundesliga this season(behind only Thomas Muller) while playing as a "number 8" in a duel 8 system(my phrasing might be off, but basically he's being paired with an equally attacking midfielder, subjected to strict positional discipline, and given significant defensive responsibilities, but he's still creating a lot).
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Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby bmguy » Sat Nov 11, 2017 8:00 am

Can't believe England play 5-3-2 against Germany. They're such a wimp.
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Re: [2017-11-10] England vs Germany

Postby RedQueen » Sat Nov 11, 2017 5:32 pm

"Now, here, you see, it takes all the running you can do, to keep in the same place. If you want to get somewhere else, you must run at least twice as fast as that!" - Red Queen, Alice - Through the Looking-Glass
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