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[2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Tue Jul 08, 2014 9:00 pm

Brazil will win inside 90 minutes
1
5%
Brazil will win after extra time
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No votes
Brazil will win on penalties
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No votes
Germany will win on penalties
0
No votes
Germany will win after extra time
2
10%
Germany will win inside 90 minutes
17
85%
 
Total votes : 20

Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:17 pm

Let's see if Van Gaal qualifies first. :)
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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby FCB general » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:24 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Let's see if Van Gaal qualifies first. :)

Joachim Löw against Louis van Gaal - wow! That would be chess battle. :)

Who would prepare better its own team? Man... Let's wait and see. I expect them in the final because I don't want 2nd Italy. :D :D
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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby thephfactor » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:27 pm

I think the monumental loss of Brazil to Germany just accentuates the already tragic narrative of this World Cup for Brazil. Thousands forcibly evicted, riots, deaths, billions and billions spent, and to be embarrassed like this at home. Brazilians must feel incredibly empty right now.

I feel proud of the German team for perfectly epitomizing a German team: cool under pressure, and selfless playmaking.

I don't feel too bad for the Brazilian team, they completely caved into the pressure and failed to react.

I feel sad for the people of Brazil because their country is really **** up and it's not their fault, and this is something that could have helped it go down easier.
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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby Jorge » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:57 pm

I add to that how Filipao talked about a FIFA conspiracy against Brazil when in reality the neutral fans were witnessing a host nation clearly favored by the referees. From that match vs Croatia to the Colombia game. Big teams and host nations are always favored, this is part of the sport but having the host nation coach crying over non existing "conspiracies" is an attempt to change perception in a bad spirited way.
Marco Rodriguez did a great job, specially changing his style (this a referee notorious for giving yellow cards for simulation) and he wisely handled 2 or 3 Brazilian dives when Germany was still 1 goal up. He did well staying out of the way, not booking the offenders to let them sink by their own weight.
I hope that for the sake of the game Brazil finds a way to reinvent themselves as a footballing nation like Germany did after EURO 2004. This loss has little to do with talent, it is more an identity crisis after Brazil -the most successful nation in World Cups- was taught a football lesson in its own soil.
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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Jul 09, 2014 3:59 pm

FCB general wrote:Who would prepare better its own team? Man... Let's wait and see. I expect them in the final because I don't want 2nd Italy.

I'd rather face Argentina than this Robben to be honest. However, I think Germany should beat both.
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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby FCB general » Wed Jul 09, 2014 4:10 pm

Jorge wrote:I add to that how Filipao talked about a FIFA conspiracy against Brazil when in reality the neutral fans were witnessing a host nation clearly favored by the referees. From that match vs Croatia to the Colombia game. Big teams and host nations are always favored, this is part of the sport but having the host nation coach crying over non existing "conspiracies" is an attempt to change perception in a bad spirited way.
Marco Rodriguez did a great job, specially changing his style (this a referee notorious for giving yellow cards for simulation) and he wisely handled 2 or 3 Brazilian dives when Germany was still 1 goal up. He did well staying out of the way, not booking the offenders to let them sink by their own weight.
I hope that for the sake of the game Brazil finds a way to reinvent themselves as a footballing nation like Germany did after EURO 2004. This loss has little to do with talent, it is more an identity crisis after Brazil -the most successful nation in World Cups- was taught a football lesson in its own soil.

Signature big as a house for this! You're reading my mind. :cheers: No wonder why I like your analyzes.
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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby The Spyware » Wed Jul 09, 2014 7:03 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:Maybe I'm beeing a little bit too harsh with this comment, but I'm sure that Brazil would be playing the final on Sunday IF Mertesacker had started this game.

He is just so bad in everything :|


BTW I have the feeling that Özil will have a great game in the final. He is in that kind of moment when everything goes wrong for him and has zero confidence. Everybody wants him to be benched but Löw keeps playing him because he still trusts in Mesut. So this kind of things happen and Mesut will probably deliver a big performance in the final if Löw plays him as starter again.


Ozil was great yesterday, I don't know why the people are waiting him to be bad and kicked from the starting line up although he is one of the best in the squad and always make the difference, He is the best passer and the one with most key passes
I wish he had scored his chance he was so unlucky with it although he run fantastically for it considering it was so late in the match after all that running
But still everyone is waiting to see him out #-o
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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby MUTU » Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:58 am

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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby MUTU » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:01 pm

Why oh why did he not pass to Schuerrle so that he could get his hattrick and the 8-0 final result instead of 7-1? :(

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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby FCB general » Thu Jul 10, 2014 12:03 pm

'Our humiliation category is full': Pornhub calls to stop uploading Brazil vs Germany highlights


Germany’s crushing 7-1 victory over Brazil in the World Cup semifinals was so brutal that it even made a debut in the 'public humiliation' section of the adult website Pornhub.

In the wake of a tsunami of internet memes about the crushing defeat of the World Cup favorites, one submission was apparently uploaded to Pornhub under the title "Young Brazilians get f**ked by entire German soccer team."

The website jokingly urged its users to stop uploading game highlights, as its “public humiliation category is full.”

A screenshot of the submission went viral, prompting curiosity from many. “Is this under ‘gangbang’ or ‘amateurs?’” one commenter asked. “I thought Pornhub didn't allow rape,” others quipped.

At the time of publication, the video had been removed. While news of the stunt was likely encouraged by the site for publicity, the screenshot remains proof that it really did happen.

Germany’s 7-1 defeat of Brazil on its home turf at Belo Horizonte Stadium was arguably one of the most embarrassing semifinal matches to date – if not the most embarrassing World Cup loss ever.

Further viral images swept the internet on Wednesday, predominantly of devastated Brazilian fans emitting fraught screams and tears as they watched the “public humiliation.”

One or two labeled the defeat a beautiful tribute to Neymar, who couldn’t play on account of his injury – so “neither did they.”

Some Brazil fans laid the blame on Mick Jagger, who was spotted mingling with a cluster of Brazil supporters in the stands.

Jagger has been nicknamed “pé frio,” which means “cold foot” in Portuguese; every team he’s visibly supported in the tournament has been doomed to lose.

Fans attempted to ward off the Jagger jinx by waving a cardboard cutout of him garbed in German colors, with a speech bubble stating “Let’s Go, Germany!” – apparently to painfully little effect.



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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby Kalev » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:38 am

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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:49 am

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I hope this won't be anti-climax... I am usually cautious after goal bonanza like this... I pray that they didn't watch any videos of this match and just forget it for now...
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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby scaPEPgoat » Fri Jul 11, 2014 2:56 pm

Tedesco wrote:I don't think that Özil was particularly bad yesterday. The only dumb thing he did was try to score himself that sitter. Schürrle was free to just tap-in. And as a result, Oscar scored from the counter that generated.

If not for Özil, the result would have been probably 8-0 and not 7-1.


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muller 5 goals 3 assists 562 mins played
kroos 2 goals 4 assists 570 mins
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Klose 2 goals 192 mins
schurrle 3 goals 155 mins

I wanted to post this in response to whoever recently posted "why single out Ozil" but couldn't find it. Still.
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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby pyrasur » Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:12 am

scaPEPgoat wrote:
Tedesco wrote:I don't think that Özil was particularly bad yesterday. The only dumb thing he did was try to score himself that sitter. Schürrle was free to just tap-in. And as a result, Oscar scored from the counter that generated.

If not for Özil, the result would have been probably 8-0 and not 7-1.


so far at wc
muller 5 goals 3 assists 562 mins played
kroos 2 goals 4 assists 570 mins
ozil 1 goal 1 assist 535 mins
Klose 2 goals 192 mins
schurrle 3 goals 155 mins

I wanted to post this in response to whoever recently posted "why single out Ozil" but couldn't find it. Still.


That was me.

You're not going to agree with me on this issue. You've got some interesting statistics, but let me add one. Özil leads with Müller in chances created. .

But stats don't show the full picture. Your stats for sure ignore that Schürrle is always brought on late in the game against tired opponents who have played the whole game. He for sure benefits from that, but that's his job and that's why he's in the team. Kroos's stats look good, but his standout game against Brazil masks how little he did against teams such as Algeria. In the opening thirty minutes there Kroos looked rather shellshocked, but he looks rather good after we've gone up 2-0 against Brazil.

Özil is supposed to be a central attacking midfielder, and he's playing out of his normal position on the left. Even with that he's created 15 chances. Even if only one of those chances led to his assist, he's still creating space for others, helping build the play, and performing the small functions that aren't shown on your stats. Özil's game is and always has been about creating opportunities for the team, making the team play better.

You have such negative feelings toward Özil, I want to know your real reason for trying to scapegoat him. Show me how much better Bastian is playing, or Götze.
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Re: [2014-07-08] Brazil vs Germany

Postby runaway » Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:40 am

Özil has played bad in the early games and hasn't brought the best game we saw of him but there's no alternative. Götze has been worse. Like Khedira, maybe the faith in him will pay off. Let's sure hope so. I want Müller to get that Golden boot.

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