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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby DRvad14 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 3:40 pm

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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby YlonenXabi » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:05 am

I think Favre is an ideal fit for Dortmund. Hope they can get him
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby aterford » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:25 am

YlonenXabi wrote:I think Favre is an ideal fit for Dortmund. Hope they can get him


Agreed. Dortmund have no problem with mediocrity and Favre's made a career on being 'average'. A match made in heaven!
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby JANCKER » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:32 pm

Vettel is average in a average car.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby tflags » Wed Apr 04, 2018 12:37 pm

aterford wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:I think Favre is an ideal fit for Dortmund. Hope they can get him


Agreed. Dortmund have no problem with mediocrity and Favre's made a career on being 'average'. A match made in heaven!


Careful :mrgreen: . Dortmund made a career actually on counter attacking the hell out of games in two seconds. Favre singlehandidly started the Kounterland movement. Back in the day, with the resources as their disposal, it was Klopp AND Favre making the league what it now freaking lacks. Tactics.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby aterford » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:54 pm

JANCKER wrote:Vettel is average in a average car.


1. Yes, because Favre is on the level of Vettel :lol: :lol:
2. Point remains, he'll be driving an "average car" in Dortmund, their squad is a mess.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby aterford » Wed Apr 04, 2018 2:55 pm

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YlonenXabi wrote:I think Favre is an ideal fit for Dortmund. Hope they can get him


Agreed. Dortmund have no problem with mediocrity and Favre's made a career on being 'average'. A match made in heaven!


Careful :mrgreen: . Dortmund made a career actually on counter attacking the hell out of games in two seconds. Favre singlehandidly started the Kounterland movement. Back in the day, with the resources as their disposal, it was Klopp AND Favre making the league what it now freaking lacks. Tactics.


For me he's always been a manager who can take mediocre teams and turn them into good teams. I've no reason to believe he can take a good team and turn them into a great one or take a great team and turn them into a silverware-winning one.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby RedQueen » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:58 pm

Stöger said after the derby yesterday that it's a good thing his contract ends by June 30th.

This is the third coach in a row who has problems with that squad. Maybe the fourth if you count Klopp's remarks at the end of his tenure. Maybe it's a about time Aki&Susi realize that something's wrong there at the root, and stop blaming everything on the bomb attack and Evil Tuchel.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby aterford » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:46 pm

Yup, that’s the opinion of a number of Dortmund fans I’ve heard from too. They’ve had players who have had problems with four coaches now. At some point you’ve got to consider who the problem *really* is!

Interestingly, if I’m reading it correctly, yesterday’s kicker made it sound like extending Stöger is still an option. They make it sound like if Dortmund qualifies for UCL he’s still a possibility—apparently the logic is that signing someone like Favre would make them unable to sign Nagelsmann in 2019 while extending Stöger for a year would keep that option on the table.
(Assuming we don’t go for JN in 2019, too...)
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby YlonenXabi » Mon Apr 16, 2018 1:55 pm

I liked the quick counter attacking football that Favre developed with Gladbach and I think he could do something similar with a much better squad in Dortmund
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby RedQueen » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:06 pm

The question is whether Stöger himself wants to stay for another season; looks to me more that he'd love to get out sooner rather than later.

Reports from Austria saying Marco Rose is on the top of their list.

Favre also seems an option at Gladbach again, where Hecking is rapidly losing support.

IMO, unless Watzke and Zorc stop backing their darlings instead of the coach, the next failure is inevitable, no matter whether it's Favre or Rose or Nagelsmann. Question for me is, after everything that's happened in the past three years, who would even accept that job.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby aterford » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:19 pm

RedQueen wrote:The question is whether Stöger himself wants to stay for another season; looks to me more that he'd love to get out sooner rather than later.

Reports from Austria saying Marco Rose is on the top of their list.

Favre also seems an option at Gladbach again, where Hecking is rapidly losing support.

IMO, unless Watzke and Zorc stop backing their darlings instead of the coach, the next failure is inevitable, no matter whether it's Favre or Rose or Nagelsmann. Question for me is, after everything that's happened in the past three years, who would even accept that job.


Yup, you're exactly right. And - no offense to him - but when a guy like Peter Stöger (for whom BVB should really be a dream job IMO - I don't really think he could feasibly set his sights much higher) seems to be more willing to pack his bags than extend and keep working with that squad - if that's not a major red flag, I don't know what is.
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