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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:18 pm

If Aubameyang and Miki both leave, I see no possibility of us not winning the Bundesliga this season. On the other hand, City might end up winning the league with a Bundesliga core, silencing everyone who said the EPL has a higher quality.

This is the moment when Dortmund need to show they are a serious club. If they let all of these players go, then they honestly cannot complain anymore. It's their fault.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby Dumbledore7 » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:24 pm

DerKaiser wrote:Real Madrid´s philosophy : The "too big to fail" theory asserts that certain corporations, and particularly financial institutions, are so large and so interconnected that their failure would be disastrous to the greater economic system, and that they therefore must be supported by government when they face potential failure.


That's brand-building, the ultimate end-point of a sustainable business. You can take calculated investments, minimise your risk and achieve short-term success - Dortmund peaked at their financial and sporting best in 2012, spent their money on Aubameyang, Mkhitaryan and Sokratis and it ended there.

By the way how many people have been involved in German football management since the Bundesliga's inception, including every personnel in the DFB and every German club to have ever been in the Bundesliga for the past 5-6 decades? Couple thousands, maybe? Only one person out of all of them seems to understand the concept and his name is Ulrich Hoeneß.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby MillaMjau » Wed Jun 08, 2016 12:48 pm

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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby endrity » Wed Jun 08, 2016 3:51 pm

It's pretty clear he isn't staying but doesn't want to cause trouble if he is forced to.

Start a bidding war, get 45m for him, buy Gotze and Dahoud and move on.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby PunkCapitalist » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:01 pm

quaazi wrote:
endrity wrote:Unfortunately there is a lot of myths around debt and financial stability in the German football media.

Almost any business has some type of debt and there are good economic reasons to have some if you can manage it, mainly consumption smoothing, i.e keeping your overall expenditure similar while you invest in future growth instead of relying on too much belt-tightening in the short run.

Yeah see this only works in economic models where investing in future growth has clear and tangible consequences. In football, you can just as easily blow a 50 million investment as you can grow it. Considering that football clubs are in actuality quite poor when compared to top dogs in actual markets (Bayern, the biggest "firm" in the biggest European economy, has a pathetic revenue of 474 million euros, roughly around 45 times smaller than the poorest company in the latest Fortune 500 list), the traditional view of debt is quite out of place in this field.

I'm by no means an expert, but wouldn't you say that in football, as opposed to other industries, the link between investment and monetary revenue is much looser? Clubs popularity and revenue wouldn't be affected by a single flop (as expensive as it may have been). Risk shouldn't be measured with regards to a player's personal output, as you suggest. Earnings are much more stable; TV deals are negotiated long term, popularity (thus shirt sales) decreases after many years of poor results, only result-dependant prizes are directly dependant on the investment's performance. I'd say, in football, the risk of an investment has a different payoff structure to other business (more upside than downside).

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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby quaazi » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:37 pm

Perhaps for the very estabished top that can carry those losses thanks to their position as top dog. Earnings really aren't guaranteed to be stable for the rest, and major investments blowing up is a huge deal for them. I'm pretty sure every Dortmund fan remembers Amoroso, eh... "fondly".
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby PunkCapitalist » Wed Jun 08, 2016 6:40 pm

True. I was thinking exclusively for the top clubs.

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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby Burko » Wed Jun 08, 2016 7:57 pm

Weigl (20), Merino (19), Dembélé (19), Mor (18), Passlack (18), Pulisic (17)

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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby Borusse » Wed Jun 08, 2016 9:36 pm

This project was never going to last in modern football and with clubs like Real, United, Bayern taking who they want when they want. It's frustrating but that's the reality we live in. All we can do now is go back to what we're good at - developing young talents and rebuilding the team.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu Jun 09, 2016 11:36 am

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Re: Borussia Dortmund

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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby dambun » Sat Jun 11, 2016 10:54 am

Dortmund seem to have been doing some very nice pieces of business in signing young talented players... =D> =D>
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby MillaMjau » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:34 am

Reus could be out for 6 months, claims Bild. :|
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:46 am

MillaMjau wrote:Reus could be out for 6 months, claims Bild. :|

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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby Burko » Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:20 am

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MillaMjau wrote:Reus could be out for 6 months, claims Bild. :|

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