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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby YlonenXabi » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:24 pm

I think Weidenfeller did it pretty bad in that goal.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby quaazi » Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:36 pm

He did, but it was 1v1 regardless.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby dambun » Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:22 pm

Yeah... if Weidenfeller had not come out, it would probably not become a goal... He just made it too easy for CR7!

On the other hand, it's our post match analysis... it's just too difficult to judge correctly in that moment, especially against a quick player like Ronaldo

EDIT: But the good thing is that Dortmund won and Oezil had a brilliant assist... his pass to Ronaldo was absolutely perfect :D
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby MUTU » Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:41 am

dambun wrote:Yeah... if Weidenfeller had not come out, it would probably not become a goal... He just made it too easy for CR7!

On the other hand, it's our post match analysis... it's just too difficult to judge correctly in that moment, especially against a quick player like Ronaldo

EDIT: But the good thing is that Dortmund won and Oezil had a brilliant assist... his pass to Ronaldo was absolutely perfect :D

Maybe he wouldn't have scored, but I think the way Wiedenfeller came out was the way he should have acted. He made it very difficult for Ronaldo to score as opposed to the easy chance he'd have had if he had been allowed time to control the ball and aim (which would have been what would have happened had he remained on the goal line)
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby smaw2010 » Fri Oct 26, 2012 7:38 am

Weidenfeller came out was right, but he should have came out later, it created too much space between him and the goal for CR7 to lob him. I think that the main problem that he was lobbed is that he came out too slow, the way he came out was way too slow if you want to stop a one on one.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby MaCk0y » Fri Oct 26, 2012 9:13 am

Weidenfeller was undecided. He came out but stopped midway. He should have stayed on the goal line. That way Ronaldo would have had to control the ball and Subotic would have recovered, if not completely at least would have put pressure on him which would have made it a lot more difficult to score.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby dambun » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:29 pm

MUTU wrote:He made it very difficult for Ronaldo to score as opposed to the easy chance he'd have had if he had been allowed time to control the ball and aim

I'm not questioning Weidenfeller's decision, because we have post-scene information... But to say that him coming out made it difficult for Ronaldo is totally wrong IMO... Ronaldo would have had a much harder time controling the ball and then having a good shoot on target, because a defender was coming his way (Bender or Subotic, not sure) and the angle was getting tighter all the time... Contrary to a routine cheap that he scored with... (I think he scored a similar goal vs. Ajax)
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby MUTU » Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:36 pm

Routine chip? Nope, at that speed (leaving all the defenders well in his wake) such a chip is very very difficult and you should take nothing away from Ronaldo. It was by no means an easy goal. I would bet not a single one of our players would have scored that except for MAYBE Ribéry.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby dambun » Fri Oct 26, 2012 4:33 pm

MUTU wrote:Routine chip? Nope, at that speed (leaving all the defenders well in his wake) such a chip is very very difficult and you should take nothing away from Ronaldo. It was by no means an easy goal

lol... not a rountine chip for you and me.... but a totally routine chip for Ronaldo!
Just watch his goal vs. Ajax.... the 2 goals look exactly the same... IMO it was an easy shot for Ronaldo...

Anyway, scoring from a tight angle with a GK in goal and a defender approaching (thus limiting your efficient time and space) is by no means easier than scoring by a cheap into an empty goal.... and not just for Ronaldo
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby MUTU » Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:00 pm

Let's just agree to disagree. I still think Ronaldo was thinking "dammit, he's coming off of his line" right before landing that beauty past him
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby SilentStrike » Fri Oct 26, 2012 11:08 pm

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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby The Spyware » Sat Oct 27, 2012 10:50 am

Yes and it was also clear to hear while watching the match
Most of the english crowds behave like a cinema crowd
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby Commodore » Sat Oct 27, 2012 12:31 pm

Not that much a fault of the people, though, to be fair. It's just that the dreaded "Modern Football" has struck England the harshest out of all countries. The advent of all-seater stadiums after the Hillsborough disaster, the exorbitantly high entry fees, and the lack of real supporter areas make it nearly impossible for English supporters to beat a crowd like Dortmund, who have "The Süd" at home. Their "Yellow Wall" terrace which holds up to 25,000 standing, screaming and chanting hardcore Borussia fans.

I remember that United fans said similar things about how awesome the Bayern fans were in 2010, and that we kept supporting the team hardcore while being 3:0 down.

I don't think there are a lot of teams in Germany who wouldn't totally rout the home fans in an English stadium atmosphere-wise. Wolfsburg, Hoffenheim and Fürth, maybe.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby BayernLove » Sat Oct 27, 2012 1:03 pm

SilentStrike wrote:=D> =D>

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A team full of Poles and THEY're the ones taking over another ground?
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Re: Borussia Dortmund discussion thread

Postby MaCk0y » Sat Oct 27, 2012 2:48 pm

Freiburg hit the post !
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