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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby MUTU » Mon Jan 27, 2014 11:59 am

Bittencourt is to Dortmund as Emre Can is to Bayern and Yeşil is to Leverkusen.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby Borusse » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:01 pm

Leitner is something else though - he could have stepped in and bench Sahin who is playing very poorly. But its also not that bad right now - he is playing in Stuttgart and is doing quite well from what Ive read. In 1,5 years he can be a huge addition when his loan ends.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:03 pm

MUTU wrote:Bittencourt is to Dortmund as Emre Can is to Bayern and Yeşil is to Leverkusen.

Regarding these buy-back clauses, can their clubs just offer the player a new contract and remove the clause?
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby Borusse » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:05 pm

In such deals there is probably a safety option that Leverkusen would for example have to pay Bayern before removing the clause.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby MUTU » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:05 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
MUTU wrote:Bittencourt is to Dortmund as Emre Can is to Bayern and Yeşil is to Leverkusen.

Regarding these buy-back clauses, can their clubs just offer the player a new contract and remove the clause?

Good question. I would assume that the buy-back clause is separate to the contract and is not invalidated by a new contract, unless the player transfers to another club. But it's only my assumption so I may be wrong.

Borusse wrote:In such deals there is probably a safety option that Leverkusen would for example have to pay Bayern before removing the clause.

This is also another possibility.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:21 pm

Borusse wrote:In such deals there is probably a safety option that Leverkusen would for example have to pay Bayern before removing the clause.

This is how I would imagine it works, but I was wondering if anyone knows.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby AdepT » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:33 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:
MUTU wrote:Bittencourt is to Dortmund as Emre Can is to Bayern and Yeşil is to Leverkusen.

Regarding these buy-back clauses, can their clubs just offer the player a new contract and remove the clause?

I tend to believe buy-back clause is inserted in the transfer contract between two clubs(plus maybe the player). The clubs agree on a fee and period for buying back. And obviously a clause for a share of the payment received if the owner club intends to sell the player to a third club while the buy-back clause period is still on. Buy-back, I believe, also, means first say on the player. Leverkusen can't sell Can before informing us.

A player's contract, on the other hand, is a contract between the player and the club. That shouldn't have any power to remove the buy-back.
Leverkusen can increase Can's salary or give an extension but Bayern still will have the option of the buy-back as explained above.

Also, there's the clause of player's will. In a loan deal, the player has to return to the parent club as he is contracted there. But in a buy-back case, it depends on the player if wants to continue at his current club or move back to his old club. Can can choose not to come back.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby dambun » Mon Jan 27, 2014 12:58 pm

MUTU wrote:
FCBayernMunchen wrote:
MUTU wrote:Bittencourt is to Dortmund as Emre Can is to Bayern and Yeşil is to Leverkusen.

Regarding these buy-back clauses, can their clubs just offer the player a new contract and remove the clause?

Good question. I would assume that the buy-back clause is separate to the contract and is not invalidated by a new contract, unless the player transfers to another club. But it's only my assumption so I may be wrong.


I guess two different types of such clauses may exist: one type can be a contract between two clubs regarding the transfer fee, should a certain player is going to move between the two...This type of clause has a certain duration and can not be removed by the player's contract extension.
The other type, is the existence of a particular release clause in the player's contract... This can be annulled if the player signs a new contract... If I'm not mistaken, there was such a clause in Mats Hummels' contract when we sold him to BVB (that he can transfer back to Bayern for 8M), which he later removed by extending his contract...
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby Firefox1234 » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:17 pm

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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby MUTU » Mon Jan 27, 2014 3:33 pm

Oh wow, a Ramos at our league rivals. Does he take penalties?
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Re: 2013/2014 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby Injokop » Tue Jan 28, 2014 9:22 am

Borussia should seriously go after Kevin Kampl. He would fit into their type of game prefectly, and price is around 13 mil. He is young, tehnicaly superb and with good work ethic. He is also capable of playing in diferent positions.Only problemi is his god-awful haircut
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Re: 2013/2014 Bundesliga Generic Discussion Thread

Postby JJJ » Tue Jan 28, 2014 1:44 pm

I heard the name first time - 13m €?
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby AdepT » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:33 pm

Goal.com has quoted Bild saying Dortmund are in for Holtby and Volland.

No mention of timing. If they get them now that would be better I guess as both can play in CL too.
But Holtby at Dortmund! Schalke fans already dislike him and that would mean inviting more trouble on oneself.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby Borusse » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:38 pm

Volland will not join us this transfer window. Maybe in the summer.

Holtby? I would want him to join us definitely but Im afraid its just Bild speculation, nothing more.
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Re: Borussia Dortmund

Postby Tedesco » Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:39 pm

How much would Tottenham want for him?
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