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So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby sch0ll7 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:46 pm

This surely must be the worst thing this season...we are conceding way too many goals from corners and it seems we are trying some new set piece tactics that isnt working. I am really getting frustrated every time we concede a corner [especially from left side of our goal].

It seems our new tactics is not having 2 players covering the post on each side.

you can see it here..starting at 1:22.

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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby sch0ll7 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:46 pm

anyone has any statistic on how many goals we conceded from corners this season?
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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby YlonenXabi » Sun Mar 17, 2013 11:22 pm

As far as I can remember


Corner: (4)
Borussia Dortmund
Arsenal
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Bayer Leverkusen


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Stuttgart

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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby ballackfcb » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:34 am

Bayern used to always have 2 players on the posts with Hitzfeld and Van Gaal.
I don't know why Heynckes has recently changed this, but he can easily put Lahm and Alaba on the posts.

Also why are Bayern conceding so many goals from corners, when we have such a tall team?
(Neuer, DVB, Dante,Boateng,Martinez,Gomez and Mandzukic)
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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby MoFattal » Mon Mar 18, 2013 10:15 am

Force majeure. We can't do anything about it.
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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:39 pm

ballackfcb wrote:Bayern used to always have 2 players on the posts with Hitzfeld and Van Gaal.
I don't know why Heynckes has recently changed this, but he can easily put Lahm and Alaba on the posts.

Also why are Bayern conceding so many goals from corners, when we have such a tall team?
(Neuer, DVB, Dante,Boateng,Martinez,Gomez and Mandzukic)


I think it is psychological; the more goals we concede this way the more we become vulnerable! We all know from it started... I don't want to mention it... :cry:

The prob can be partially fixed by having two players defending the damn posts. It should be like this.:
In a situation of corner from our left. Lahm shall be placed on that side (being right footed, he can clear the ball with ease and Alaba on the opp post to be easy for him too to use his left foot)
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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby sch0ll7 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:46 pm

If we only had 2 players on the posts we would concede just 1 goal from those 4 i think...because 3 of them were going right next to the post and were not that strong shots.

Just cant figure it out why arent we doing that. It seems every team out there is covering posts when defending corners.
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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:57 pm

I guess Jupp decided for this tact just to have more players defending the small box area and the opponents; but I am afraid it is not being fruitful!
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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby quaazi » Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:51 am

ramsej84 wrote:I think it is psychological; the more goals we concede this way the more we become vulnerable! We all know from it started... I don't want to mention it... :cry:

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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby MoFattal » Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:01 am

I'd say United 1999.
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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby Achilles » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:29 pm

Probably Heynckes and Neuer want plus 2 players in the box and not at the post,so they can guard many players but I don't think it was beneficial so far...

Another problem is Neuer's form everytime for every goal,he does nothing.Bayern takes 1 to 3 on target shots but Neuer easily concedes AT LEAST one in the last games,he has to make saves(!) and to CLEAR the corners(he is awful in that,probably his weakness)
With this Manuel Neuer form at Juventus clash we're done!

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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby Element » Tue Mar 19, 2013 12:33 pm

I think that heynckes does that to make us faster in counter attacks as it is one of our strengths this season

(This season in Bundesliga, Bayern have scored 16 goals from counter attacks)
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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby lau03143 » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:05 pm

Element wrote:I think that heynckes does that to make us faster in counter attacks as it is one of our strengths this season

(This season in Bundesliga, Bayern have scored 16 goals from counter attacks)


That's a fair point. Though that's assuming we can defend corners, which at the moment we're struggling with. You can't counter attack if the ball is in your net.

The further we get into the competition (CL), we need to ensure we don't lose silly goals. That means having our fullbacks on the posts.

They're quick anyway, so they'd be able to get up and support quick enough.
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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby MoFattal » Tue Mar 19, 2013 1:27 pm

^ Agreed. It wouldn't harm much having the fullbacks cover the posts. They won't prevent Drogba-like goals, but at least they would prevent Rolfes-like goals.
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Re: So whats up with our corner set pieces?

Postby sch0ll7 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 8:35 pm

still no change...conceding 2 goals from 2 corners is just stupid. still noone near the post.
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