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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby Coman » Wed Aug 23, 2017 4:22 pm

Pelin wrote:
Coman wrote:
Why ?...

Since, Germany's total market pool money is not high like İtaly because of current deal.[/quote]

Ok :)

Too bad ...
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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby Pelin » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:03 pm

Erfreulich für Schwarz-Gelb: Sollte sich der BVB in der gerade begonnenen Saison erneut für die Champions League qualifizieren, winkt noch deutlich mehr Geld. Die Details des neuen Fernsehvertrages für die Königsklasse seien noch nicht ausreichend bekannt, sagt Treß, aber „nach dem, was wir wissen, können wir davon ausgehen, dass die TV-Erlöse aus einer Champions-League-Teilnahme ab der Saison 2018/19 für Borussia Dortmund um ungefähr 30 bis 40 Millionen wachsen würden.“ (fs)


Pay TV effect.
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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby Coman » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:06 pm

Pelin wrote:
Erfreulich für Schwarz-Gelb: Sollte sich der BVB in der gerade begonnenen Saison erneut für die Champions League qualifizieren, winkt noch deutlich mehr Geld. Die Details des neuen Fernsehvertrages für die Königsklasse seien noch nicht ausreichend bekannt, sagt Treß, aber „nach dem, was wir wissen, können wir davon ausgehen, dass die TV-Erlöse aus einer Champions-League-Teilnahme ab der Saison 2018/19 für Borussia Dortmund um ungefähr 30 bis 40 Millionen wachsen würden.“ (fs)


Pay TV effect.


So we can imagine the same for Bayern I guess.
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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby Pelin » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:35 pm

Coman wrote:
Pelin wrote:
Erfreulich für Schwarz-Gelb: Sollte sich der BVB in der gerade begonnenen Saison erneut für die Champions League qualifizieren, winkt noch deutlich mehr Geld. Die Details des neuen Fernsehvertrages für die Königsklasse seien noch nicht ausreichend bekannt, sagt Treß, aber „nach dem, was wir wissen, können wir davon ausgehen, dass die TV-Erlöse aus einer Champions-League-Teilnahme ab der Saison 2018/19 für Borussia Dortmund um ungefähr 30 bis 40 Millionen wachsen würden.“ (fs)


Pay TV effect.


So we can imagine the same for Bayern I guess.

Yep, actually more. since Bayern often plays more games than them in CL and also German champion gets more share.
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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby Coman » Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:40 pm

Pelin wrote:
Coman wrote:
Pelin wrote:[quote]Erfreulich für Schwarz-Gelb: Sollte sich der BVB in der gerade begonnenen Saison erneut für die Champions League qualifizieren, winkt noch deutlich mehr Geld. Die Details des neuen Fernsehvertrages für die Königsklasse seien noch nicht ausreichend bekannt, sagt Treß, aber „nach dem, was wir wissen, können wir davon ausgehen, dass die TV-Erlöse aus einer Champions-League-Teilnahme ab der Saison 2018/19 für Borussia Dortmund um ungefähr 30 bis 40 Millionen wachsen würden.“ (fs)


Pay TV effect.


So we can imagine the same for Bayern I guess.

Yep, actually more. since Bayern often plays more games than them in CL and also German champion gets more share.[/quote]So 35-50M€ in TV right than last season ? Wow
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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby #12 » Fri Sep 08, 2017 10:32 pm

IF we become champions...
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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby IsiahRashad » Fri Sep 15, 2017 1:14 pm

The video is from 12.2016,but i still find it interesting.

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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby Pelin » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:02 pm

https://www.allianz.com/de/presse/news/ ... trum-2017/

Did we sell Bayern Campus's naming rights to Allianz? They say that Allianz and FC Bayern are extending their long-term partnership in their press release.

Also many uncertanity over new TV deal. DFB last year said that int. revenue is 400 m euros. After that, BL signed new deals with China(50 m euros a year), MP&Silva(big agrement since they sell BL rights to many countries) France, Polland, Austria, İtaly deals e.t.c Even with 154 m euros, we got 32 m euros from İnt. deal at that time.

l assume it will be over 500 m euros. However, Dortmund said that they are expecting 21 m euros income increase thanks to new TV deal, which makes me think. Player sells and their payments plays a good role for their budget, maybe because of it. l don't know. it is impossible to calculate without knowing details of their contracts and players sales.

we can easily reach up to 150 m euros a year TV revenue with current numbers.
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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby FCB12Forever » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:25 pm

IsiahRashad wrote:The video is from 12.2016,but i still find it interesting.



Very good video. It won't expire before other BL teams at least catch up with BVB. Fact is other BL teams are holding Bayern back.

Also, I think it is about time we start discussing a bit of what BL and Bayern should do after the fall (or at least change) of the 50+1 rule. Stefan Uersfeld disscussed here, where he says:

*Some BL club managements actually are waiting for the rule to fall.

*Some BL clubs have secret link with future investors.

http://bundesligafanatic.com/the-cross- ... -uersfeld/

I think investors will eventually come, there will be good ones, and bad ones. BL will see a bit of turmoil, but new order will be established when things stabilize. Hopefully we can still be on top of the new BL.
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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby Pelin » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:29 pm

l think 50+1 will change soon. Teams started to look positive about changining it. Kalle was positive, same goes for Mintzlaff‎.

Aber jeder deutsche Fußballfan sollte dankbar sein, dass es den FC Bayern gibt.

Warum?

Dass die Bayern so ein Magnet geworden sind, ist ein Segen für den deutschen Fußball. Die Bayern haben einen wesentlichen Anteil daran, dass die Bundesliga so einen lukrativen TV-Vertrag hat.

Bayerns Dominanz hat den Meisterkampf jedoch langweilig gemacht. Muss die 50+1-Regel fallen, damit durch Investoren andere Klubs den Abstand zu Bayern verringern können?

Da bin ich zwiegespalten. Diese deutsche 50+1-Regel ist in Europa einmalig. Dennoch denke ich, dass sich 50+1 in Deutschland verändern wird und auch verändern muss. Es ist richtig, für Investoren interessanter zu werden. Aber es darf nicht sein, dass Investoren den Fußball als Spielzeug betrachten und nach drei Jahren keine Lust mehr haben. Und wir müssen aufpassen, dass wir uns das Wertvolle der Bundesliga bewahren. Hierbei denke ich unter anderem an bezahlbare Tickets, Fankultur und volle Stadien.


We need Schalke, Bayern, BVB and Rb Leipzig to fight for scudetto at least.
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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby Effenberg777 » Sat Sep 16, 2017 1:45 pm

FCB12Forever wrote:
IsiahRashad wrote:The video is from 12.2016,but i still find it interesting.



Very good video. It won't expire before other BL teams at least catch up with BVB. Fact is other BL teams are holding Bayern back.

Also, I think it is about time we start discussing a bit of what BL and Bayern should do after the fall (or at least change) of the 50+1 rule. Stefan Uersfeld disscussed here, where he says:

*Some BL club managements actually are waiting for the rule to fall.

*Some BL clubs have secret link with future investors.

http://bundesligafanatic.com/the-cross- ... -uersfeld/

I think investors will eventually come, there will be good ones, and bad ones. BL will see a bit of turmoil, but new order will be established when things stabilize. Hopefully we can still be on top of the new BL.


OT anyone knows what software is used to make such presentation with the hand writing?
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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby FCB12Forever » Sat Sep 16, 2017 7:37 pm

Pelin wrote:Kalle was positive, same goes for Mintzlaff‎.

3 days ago. Looks like it's being pushed forward since Kalle said that about 1 week ago. These executives have been responding mostly in favor of Kalle's view.
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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby Coman » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:36 am

2015/16 : Bayern had a €592M turn-over.

2016/17 : We don't know how much it will be but we can hope it will be around €600M.

2017/18 : With new Bundesliga TV rights, with new UCL distribution gain system and with new sponsor deal. We can believe Bayern will earn around €100M more than 2016/17.

I bet on a €710M turn-over for 2017/18 if Bayern has decent results this season.
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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Sep 17, 2017 8:48 am

Effenberg777 wrote:OT anyone knows what software is used to make such presentation with the hand writing?


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Re: FC Bayern Finances

Postby Pelin » Mon Sep 18, 2017 2:50 pm

Coman wrote:2015/16 : Bayern had a €592M turn-over.

2016/17 : We don't know how much it will be but we can hope it will be around €600M.

2017/18 : With new Bundesliga TV rights, with new UCL distribution gain system and with new sponsor deal. We can believe Bayern will earn around €100M more than 2016/17.

I bet on a €710M turn-over for 2017/18 if Bayern has decent results this season.

8 m euros increase is very very low. l'm expecting a %5-8 increase. otherwise, only 8 m euros increase will be a big failure for MGT.

For next budget year, New BL TV deal, new CL TV revenue, 3 new sponsors, some new deals for İnt. BL TV revenue, Allianz partnership for Bayern campus. even increase on shirt sales thanks to James. since he is one of the most marketable players in the world. so 100 m euros increase looks very reasonable.

some question marks over İnt. BL TV revenue in total. some says it was 400 last year or some says it was 250. China will be valid onwards 2018.
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