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Re: 2017/18 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby Lahmies » Thu Apr 26, 2018 6:53 pm

It’s not as impossible as you make it sound. Real are not playing at their usual level, Juve had them beat at the bernabeu 3-0 before they were robbed (and no one can convince me they weren’t!). Juve did that without dybala and with higuain. Alas, RM didn’t have ramos... Still, not impossible, there are a lot of factors involved. Weirder things have happened in football. This year’s CL alone had a lot of surprising results from ties that seemed settled already. We still have our injuries and lack of squad depth to contend with, but who knows, Jupp might come up with a smart solution. I may be sounding overtly optimistic now, but I still recognize our chances of going through aren’t that good. They do exist, though.
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Re: 2017/18 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby #12 » Thu Apr 26, 2018 7:12 pm

Lahmies wrote:It’s not as impossible as you make it sound. Real are not playing at their usual level, Juve had them beat at the bernabeu 3-0 before they were robbed (and no one can convince me they weren’t!). Juve did that without dybala and with higuain. Alas, RM didn’t have ramos... Still, not impossible, there are a lot of factors involved. Weirder things have happened in football. This year’s CL alone had a lot of surprising results from ties that seemed settled already. We still have our injuries and lack of squad depth to contend with, but who knows, Jupp might come up with a smart solution. I may be sounding overtly optimistic now, but I still recognize our chances of going through aren’t that good. They do exist, though.


If we play at the Bernabeu for 100 times, we would get the result needed to advance in one game and maybe an overtime result (1-2) in one or two more cases... So we maybe have a two per cent chance of turning this around - at best...

I've read the same shit last year - didn’t work then, won’t work now...
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Re: 2017/18 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby YlonenXabi » Tue May 01, 2018 10:50 pm

I love the way we play and now I'm even more convinced that playing with wings is the way to go. We just need to buy the right players in summer.
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Re: 2017/18 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby Paphlagonian » Tue May 01, 2018 11:10 pm

Ladies and Gentlemen I present you the FUTURE;

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You can add Max as LB, Arp as future ST, Martial as Winger and Müller as RW or ST.
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Re: 2017/18 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby aterford » Wed May 02, 2018 12:08 am

Paphlagonian wrote:Ladies and Gentlemen I present you the FUTURE;

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You can add Max as LB, Arp as future ST, Martial as Winger and Müller as RW or ST.


Brother, I'd be 100% on board with this
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Re: 2017/18 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby pyrasur » Wed May 02, 2018 5:34 am

Exciting looking attack, pretty happy with the way that midfield looks, and I think there is no question about the defence.

The question for me is how to provide adequate backup for that attack. I have serious doubt's about Müller's ability to offer anything in that system from the right wing. I don't know if Bayern can afford to purchase an TWO competitors for the wings to Coman/Gnabry AND get a new CF to replace Lewandowski, although after the Real Madrid tie we might be in the hitherto unforeseen circumstance of being stuck with Lewy. Maybe Brandt would be affordable enough even after the money you'd need to spend probably to get Werner and another viable alternative like Martial.
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Re: 2017/18 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby Paphlagonian » Wed May 02, 2018 8:30 am

The only reason Müller will play is that he's Bavarian. Came out from the youth academy and served very well till this last week. I don't rule him out. He is our boy unlike Lewandowski he's not bitching about money or cups. He works his ass off.
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Re: 2017/18 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby MUTU » Wed May 02, 2018 10:43 am

If not for Lewandowski's bad pass (while being fouled) after some 24 seconds into the match, or Lewandowski stopping Mueller's goalbound tap-in on the line later on in the match, we'd have been calling Mueller a hero. But, because he was let down by Lewandowski, he's a zero. Nobody would be talking about his performance in a negative way if he had gotten those 2 goals in the 1st leg. Chances are, they'd have had to open up their defence even more and maybe he'd have bagged even more goals. These things are really fickle and it's a mistake to point fingers after one round, be it Mueller, Lewandowski, Rafinha or Ulreich. There's too many IFs that could have made them look like heroes, or else their performance might not have been seen in such a bad light. I guess it's human nature to seek out the scapegoat players after each elimination.
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Re: 2017/18 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby Paphlagonian » Wed May 02, 2018 11:01 am

MUTU wrote:If not for Lewandowski's bad pass (while being fouled) after some 24 seconds into the match, or Lewandowski stopping Mueller's goalbound tap-in on the line later on in the match, we'd have been calling Mueller a hero. But, because he was let down by Lewandowski, he's a zero. Nobody would be talking about his performance in a negative way if he had gotten those 2 goals in the 1st leg. Chances are, they'd have had to open up their defence even more and maybe he'd have bagged even more goals. These things are really fickle and it's a mistake to point fingers after one round, be it Mueller, Lewandowski, Rafinha or Ulreich. There's too many IFs that could have made them look like heroes, or else their performance might not have been seen in such a bad light. I guess it's human nature to seek out the scapegoat players after each elimination.


I disagree. Wouldn't you blame a doctor if he caused to cripple someone you love by the mistake that he shouldn't do in the first place? Would you call it human nature too? I wouldn't for sure. They are pros. They are earning tons of money for the job they are doing. We don't need to go too soft on them. Because it's their job not to fail this big on a stage also this big. We are very well eligible to criticize them over the mistakes (I still believe naming those utter fails as mistake is downplay) they made/make. The only reason Bayern is not in the final is Rafinha's and Ulreich's mistakes. Lewandowski's or Müller's unableness to score is something else. Clear as that. I'm not going to blame James/Hummels/Thiago/Süle/Ribery/Kimmich/Alaba or others just because of the mistakes of these two. They costed us the final. I'd be fine if they failed to defend or failed to score. But we "GIFTED" 2 goals to them. I will never accept this. If I was a team player I'd be kicking walls. Imagine you are James. Busting your ass all day to do something useful and scoring eye of a needle goal but then Ulreich gifts them that goal. You'd be ****' mad. BIG TIME!
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Re: 2017/18 Tactics & Formations Thread

Postby IsiahRashad » Thu May 03, 2018 1:27 pm

There are rumours about Leon's role with Bayern. Some of the people (i'm thinking in the same way) are saying that Kovac is going to use him as an DM, since his defensive abilities are very good.

Also, in this way both of them can play together on the pitch, which is going to be crucial for their chemistry.

I think that that the defensive contribution is one of his best abilities and i want to see him playing as a DM.
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