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[2017-07-25] Chelsea vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Tue Jul 25, 2017 12:35 pm

Chelsea F.C. will win inside 90 minutes
4
57%
Chelsea F.C. will win on penalties
0
No votes
Bayern Munich will win on penalties
1
14%
Bayern Munich will win inside 90 minutes
2
29%
 
Total votes : 7

Re: [2017-07-25] Chelsea vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:28 am

bastos80 wrote:
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bastos80 wrote:Like it makes a difference from what team he's coming or if it was a loan if he improves our team... :roll:

Also that loan thing is an excellent deal on our part. Can't really lose out on it.

Yes, it makes a difference from what team he's coming from. In an ideal world, a transfer serves not only to strengthen your team but to weaken your direct opponent, and Real Madrid is to be seen as our biggest competitor in the Champions League.

As for the loan, you really need to see the fine print on that loan contract to see whether or not it's excellent. Specifically, does the player have the right to refuse a Bayern offer? It would be weird if he performs really well and near the end of the loan when Bayern try to trigger the clause he simply says "no" and lands back in Madrid a month later, especially if they motivate him with promises of consistent playing time.

This is why I'm wary about calling him our player until I know for sure that a simple shake of the head could land him in another club in 2 years time without even needing to hold a pen in his hand. I mean you can use this argument against any player on contract, but at least they have to do more effort, like finding a new club and agreeing on a contract etc. With a loan that gives a player right of refusal it's different because inaction from his end (i.e. not signing a contract offered by Bayern) automatically lands him at Real Madrid in 2 years time with the same salary he was on and with just one year left on his contract which gives him negotiating powers for an improved salary.



1) "Yes, it makes a difference from what team he's coming from. In an ideal world, a transfer serves not only to strengthen your team but to weaken your direct opponent, and Real Madrid is to be seen as our biggest competitor in the Champions League."
LMAO, if you think we can actively weaken the biggest club in the world. Signing Robben didn't weaken them but it strengthens us, so who cares?

2) As for the loan, you really need to see the fine print on that loan contract to see whether or not it's excellent. Specifically, does the player have the right to refuse a Bayern offer? It would be weird if he performs really well and near the end of the loan when Bayern try to trigger the clause he simply says "no" and lands back in Madrid a month later, especially if they motivate him with promises of consistent playing time.
Yes, his contract at Bayern will automatically be extended for 3 more years should Bayern trigger the one-sided clause which you should know if you actually followed Bayern's press conferences. That being said you can stop your ridiculous judgment of James.
I missed the one sided clause. If that is the case then the scenario I feared is not possible and he can truly be regarded as one of us. Also, get off your high horse. I never judged him, in fact I am the one who asked for caution before we judge him.
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Re: [2017-07-25] Chelsea vs Bayern Munich

Postby Ollio » Thu Jul 27, 2017 7:49 pm

After losing to both of the Milan teams, man am I happy winning this game, against PL champions. What an utter humiliation this tour would've been if not. I guess it still is kinda.


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Re: [2017-07-25] Chelsea vs Bayern Munich

Postby Coman » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:28 pm

Ollio wrote:After losing to both of the Milan teams, man am I happy winning this game, against PL champions. What an utter humiliation this tour would've been if not. I guess it still is kinda.


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Nobody cares about "humiliation" in pre-season tour with a B-squad.

Look at Real Madrid...

Only march/april/may counts.
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Re: [2017-07-25] Chelsea vs Bayern Munich

Postby Ollio » Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:32 pm

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Ollio wrote:After losing to both of the Milan teams, man am I happy winning this game, against PL champions. What an utter humiliation this tour would've been if not. I guess it still is kinda.


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Nobody cares about "humiliation" in pre-season tour with a B-squad.

Look at Real Madrid...

Only march/april/may counts.


I know mate, they count for nothing and are mainly fitness and match practice. But I want us to win every match, therefore I care. I hate watching us lose and play bad. Doesn't matter competitively, but makes me uncomfourtable going into the next match and ruins my day for sure.


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Re: [2017-07-25] Chelsea vs Bayern Munich

Postby Coman » Thu Jul 27, 2017 9:05 pm

Remember how it was with Pep. The team was already super fit in august to finish tired in february.

Need a Heynckes season. Great from august to december. Average in february and early match and monster til june
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Re: [2017-07-25] Chelsea vs Bayern Munich

Postby Effenberg777 » Thu Aug 03, 2017 11:13 am

Predicting on the poll against bayern this days its not anymore a joke . ;)
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