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Re: English football

Postby envagyokazapad » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:21 pm

Chelsea is clearly superior but that was a CLEAR foul nonetheless.
He was even taken off injured.
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Re: English football

Postby pyrasur » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:27 pm

Looked like both the centerbacks got dragged out because Arsenal midfield is too lazy to track runners. #34 just watched his player run for a center back to pick up, and so Bellerin covers everyone else :lol:

@Ramsej I ask the same question. The commentators are insisting it's not a foul, but I think this is a difference between tough boy British football and the football the rest of the world plays. :roll: When Mandzukic played for us he was a master at drawing the foul for being elbowed.
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Re: English football

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:41 pm

pyrasur wrote:Looked like both the centerbacks got dragged out because Arsenal midfield is too lazy to track runners. #34 just watched his player run for a center back to pick up, and so Bellerin covers everyone else

@Ramsej I ask the same question. The commentators are insisting it's not a foul, but I think this is a difference between tough boy British football and the football the rest of the world plays. :roll: When Mandzukic played for us he was a master at drawing the foul for being elbowed.

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Re: English football

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:43 pm

OHhhh what a goal by hazard

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Re: English football

Postby envagyokazapad » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:47 pm

pyrasur wrote:Looked like both the centerbacks got dragged out because Arsenal midfield is too lazy to track runners. #34 just watched his player run for a center back to pick up, and so Bellerin covers everyone else :lol:

@Ramsej I ask the same question. The commentators are insisting it's not a foul, but I think this is a difference between tough boy British football and the football the rest of the world plays. :roll: When Mandzukic played for us he was a master at drawing the foul for being elbowed.


It would have been a foul anywhere else in the world, which is what I thought. The commentators are wrong...he just flew into Bellerín with his elbows out wide. You just can't do that...this is why I said before, refereeing is an absolute joke in England.
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Re: English football

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:50 pm

envagyokazapad wrote:
pyrasur wrote:Looked like both the centerbacks got dragged out because Arsenal midfield is too lazy to track runners. #34 just watched his player run for a center back to pick up, and so Bellerin covers everyone else

@Ramsej I ask the same question. The commentators are insisting it's not a foul, but I think this is a difference between tough boy British football and the football the rest of the world plays. :roll: When Mandzukic played for us he was a master at drawing the foul for being elbowed.


It would have been a foul anywhere else in the world, which is what I thought. The commentators are wrong...he just flew into Bellerín with his elbows out wide. You just can't do that...this is why I said before, refereeing is an absolute joke in England.

As a general rule, English referees are the most lenient and Spanish referees give penalities like candy. German referees are IMO middle ground.

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Re: English football

Postby envagyokazapad » Sat Feb 04, 2017 2:58 pm

I am aware. They do this deliberately to maintain this tough boy image of British football, which is absolutely rubbish. Dangerous play is still dangerous, there is a reason why you are not allowed to just elbow people.
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Re: English football

Postby pyrasur » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:07 pm

ramsej84 wrote:I don't that it was me.
I ve just came home and switche on my tv


Apologies to both concerned :)
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Re: English football

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:19 pm

envagyokazapad wrote:I am aware. They do this deliberately to maintain this tough boy image of British football, which is absolutely rubbish. Dangerous play is still dangerous, there is a reason why you are not allowed to just elbow people.

Yeah. They also like to increase the "emotion" by given like 10 minutes of extra time on tight games. I think German referees give the least time, Spanish middle ground and English the most.

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Re: English football

Postby pyrasur » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:23 pm

The drama makes the EPL successful from a marketing perspective, but from a sporting perspective they suffer. The quality of football is too low for the number of stars they've drawn in with their money.
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Re: English football

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sat Feb 04, 2017 3:50 pm

pyrasur wrote:The drama makes the EPL successful from a marketing perspective, but from a sporting perspective they suffer. The quality of football is too low for the number of stars they've drawn in with their money.

Sadly I don't think that's the case anymore. The EPL's biggest problem quality-wise used to be the terribly outdated and subpar tactics, but with Guardiola, Klopp, Conte, Mourinho, Pochettino and a less austere version of Wenger all working there at the same time, plus a wave of new players who can actually play football, that problem is quickly dissappearing.

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Re: English football

Postby envagyokazapad » Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:20 pm

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pyrasur wrote:The drama makes the EPL successful from a marketing perspective, but from a sporting perspective they suffer. The quality of football is too low for the number of stars they've drawn in with their money.

Sadly I don't think that's the case anymore. The EPL's biggest problem quality-wise used to be the terribly outdated and subpar tactics, but with Guardiola, Klopp, Conte, Mourinho, Pochettino and a less austere version of Wenger all working there at the same time, plus a wave of new players who can actually play football, that problem is quickly dissappearing.

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I kind of agree...I've watched some Chelsea, Pool and City games lately, and they were all enjoyable.
The more attractive the league (*football quality-wise) gets, the easier it's going to be to attract even more players (on top of the salaries they are offering). I guess we will see.

I'm still annoyed by the stupid refereeing. There's just too much needless aggression particularly by the smaller teams.
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Re: English football

Postby envagyokazapad » Sat Feb 04, 2017 4:21 pm

PunkCapitalist wrote:
envagyokazapad wrote:I am aware. They do this deliberately to maintain this tough boy image of British football, which is absolutely rubbish. Dangerous play is still dangerous, there is a reason why you are not allowed to just elbow people.

Yeah. They also like to increase the "emotion" by given like 10 minutes of extra time on tight games. I think German referees give the least time, Spanish middle ground and English the most.

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Yeah, they are playing 2-3 more games every season, just because of the ridiculous ET.
Germans are the other end of the scale in this sense for me...perhaps 1-2 mins of ET wouldn't hurt sometimes, but more often than not there's just no ET at all at the end of the first halves.
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Re: English football

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:31 pm

Hello Lukas
Why , why vs Lpool?

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Re: English football

Postby Lukas » Sat Feb 04, 2017 7:39 pm

Don't blame us, we have to fight for every point regardless of the opponents, whether it's Liverpool or Burnley. I didn't see the game (unfortunately I chose the wrong match, you know which one :twisted: ) but I gather Liverpool dominated possession but never looked threatening. They only have themselves to blame. Had they played to their potential (and I was expecting their full force to hit us in anger after their last few weeks) they'd have won easily.
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