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[2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat May 21, 2016 7:00 pm

Bayern Munich will win inside 90 minutes
7
54%
Bayern Munich will win after extra time
2
15%
Bayern Munich will win on penalties
1
8%
Borussia Dortmund will win on penalties
1
8%
Borussia Dortmund will win after extra time
1
8%
Borussia Dortmund will win inside 90 minutes
1
8%
 
Total votes : 13

Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby Borusse » Thu May 26, 2016 1:00 am

Because it's more fun that way!
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby #12 » Thu May 26, 2016 1:51 am

Borusse wrote:Well, he's not wrong. Bayern did have some luck in key moments of the finals Dortmund played against them in the last few years. Dante's second yellow in 2013 not given, disallowed goal in 2014, now Ribery not getting sent-off. You can't deny Bayern were lucky to have these decisions go their way.


First yellow was a joke... I'll keep repeating it until at least ONE Dortmund fan ever admits it... :P :D
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby quaazi » Thu May 26, 2016 8:02 am

Borusse wrote: disallowed goal in 2014

bull. shit.
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby Borusse » Thu May 26, 2016 1:23 pm

quaazi wrote:
Borusse wrote: disallowed goal in 2014

bull. shit.


Why? Meyer himself admitted he made a mistake and it was a regular goal. And no, there was no offside there.

#12 wrote:
Borusse wrote:Well, he's not wrong. Bayern did have some luck in key moments of the finals Dortmund played against them in the last few years. Dante's second yellow in 2013 not given, disallowed goal in 2014, now Ribery not getting sent-off. You can't deny Bayern were lucky to have these decisions go their way.


First yellow was a joke... I'll keep repeating it until at least ONE Dortmund fan ever admits it... :P :D


Not sure I remember the first yellow. Still, what he did to Reus was an idiotic challenge and it deserved a booking.

Just to be clear, I'm not really one of those people who will blame everyone else for failures of his team but the fact stands that Bayern had more luck to ref's decisions in these three finals than Dortmund had.
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby MUTU » Thu May 26, 2016 1:41 pm



Looks offside to me.
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby ramsej84 » Thu May 26, 2016 1:45 pm

and how many fouls did Reus made and was never booked?
This Hummels' was a clear off-side...
What about our two penalty claims... ?
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Thu May 26, 2016 1:59 pm

In my opinion 2014 really was a steal, but no one can blame the referee for last week's game.
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby Borusse » Thu May 26, 2016 2:29 pm

It's not offside at all and I think we already talked about this in 2014. Martinez's right foot makes the line, and his foot is closer to the goal than Hummels. And I think you should learn something about perspective as well. :P

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Clear onside. If you want to argue that, go ahead, but I'm not going to discuss this anymore, it's boring and people start to get agressive for some reason and I can't be arsed to deal with that.
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby tflags » Thu May 26, 2016 2:40 pm

Looks offside to me. :P
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby JANCKER » Thu May 26, 2016 2:42 pm

It's ridiculous when someone is offside or onside for 1 cm... and I don't know how the refs manage to see that... and I really don't expect them to see that... perhaps a rule change? 1 mm, really? :P
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby Valkress » Thu May 26, 2016 3:04 pm

JANCKER wrote:It's ridiculous when someone is offside or onside for 1 cm... and I don't know how the refs manage to see that... and I really don't expect them to see that... perhaps a rule change? 1 mm, really? :P


Well, the rule already states that in case of doubt about an offside, advantage should be given to the offense.

Which is quite logical : the spirit of the offside rule is to avoid player standing in the opposite box, waiting for long balls. When someone is 5cm offside, there is really no reason to bitch about it because it had no real tactical influence.

Anyway, the goal was not ruled out because of offside (the game would have been stopped) but because the referees didn't notice the ball was in the goal : this is clearly a ref mistake. And it did change the momentum of the game.
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby MUTU » Thu May 26, 2016 3:17 pm

Borusse wrote:It's not offside at all and I think we already talked about this in 2014. Martinez's right foot makes the line, and his foot is closer to the goal than Hummels. And I think you should learn something about perspective as well. :P

Edit: I found the picture from Sky Sports post-match studio:

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Clear onside. If you want to argue that, go ahead, but I'm not going to discuss this anymore, it's boring and people start to get agressive for some reason and I can't be arsed to deal with that.

Just curious, where are you seeing Martinez's right foot? It's clearly hidden by Hummels' body.
But then, Hummels is a Bayern player so it was effectively an own goal :P
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby Dumbledore7 » Thu May 26, 2016 4:59 pm

Javi's foot was definitely on the line in that picture.
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby quaazi » Fri May 27, 2016 8:40 am

You silly people, it's not about the possible offside, it's about a bullshit free kick decision (Hojbjerg, IIRC, got clearly fouled and for some reason he was adjudged to have dived (at the touchline!) and a free kick was awadred to Dortmund) that led to that goal.
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Re: [2016-05-21] Bayern Munich vs Borussia Dortmund

Postby quaazi » Fri May 27, 2016 8:43 am

The play in question. You can clearly see Hojbjerg's leg getting clattered and shaking about.
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