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[2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

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Real Madrid will win
6
14%
It will end in a draw
5
11%
Bayern Munich will win
33
75%
 
Total votes : 44

Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:05 am

Xabi, you've come back from 3 down in a half. Show us how it's done!


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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:23 am

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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:34 am

bastos80 wrote:hummels [-o< [-o<


If he is not fully fit he'd better don't risk. We risk a deadly mistake that will cost us the game or an aggravated injury

What about Boa? Is he OK ?
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby lespharesjaunes » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:44 am

Hummels won't come to Madrid and Boateng is still not sure.
If Boa can't do it, what gonna be the defense ?
Lahm kimmich Alaba bernat... facing Ronaldo and Benzema.
Hard time coming.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:48 am

lespharesjaunes wrote:Hummels won't come to Madrid and Boateng is still not sure.
If Boa can't do it, what gonna be the defense ?
Lahm kimmich Alaba bernat... facing Ronaldo and Benzema.
Hard time coming.


I'd say Rafinha will play. If this is the defence then we should go all out and aim to outscore them


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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:51 am

ottackon wrote:Lewandowski is fit

That's what they said prior to the first leg too. When I see him on the pitch, I'll believe. Once bitten, twice shy.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby Effenberg777 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:56 am


Hope you will watch it from there dear Alonso.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby Effenberg777 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 11:58 am

MUTU wrote:
ottackon wrote:Lewandowski is fit

That's what they said prior to the first leg too. When I see him on the pitch, I'll believe. Once bitten, twice shy.

What chances you think we have?
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby Achilles » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:03 pm

I don't think we are in need to go all guns blazing from the first minute, we're chasing a normal win not a miracle. I'd take the extra time and penalties too with Lewandowski fit. My biggest wish would be for Hummels to be fit but it's unlikely. The first 15-20' minutes of the game should be like in Allianz, we need to keep the composure,the balance and find out what Madrid is up for tactically. Rushing it for a goal like there it's no tomorrow doesn't affect RM clearly. The attitude of the players must be like it for the entire game not our gameplay. We need some Italian recipe for tomorrow, an early goal will be fantastic but I don't think we have to aim for that at all costs.

I'm expecting Real Madrid to sit back and watch us trying, they are in charge after all but Bayern will be on a do or die mode and we know that we live up to those standards when we are up against the wall despite the results we always perform regardless the outcome, it's always close. Robben will step up in this game I'm sure, two consecutive big games being subdued for Arjen is abnormal. Lewy will be there to drag some defenders and attention on him so Robben and Muller will find some spaces. It would be vital to feed Lewandowski in the first 15 minutes so RM's defense "feels" him into the box, fear factor, unlike invisible Muller at Munich.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby ottackon » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:08 pm

MUTU wrote:
ottackon wrote:Lewandowski is fit

That's what they said prior to the first leg too. When I see him on the pitch, I'll believe. Once bitten, twice shy.

No no, Ancelotti made it clear that Lewandowski was doubtful before the first leg, this time, the player himself said he was fit and eager to fight in close quarters.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby Effenberg777 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:13 pm

Achilles wrote:I don't think we are in need to go all guns blazing from the first minute, we're chasing a normal win not a miracle. I'd take the extra time and penalties too with Lewandowski fit. My biggest wish would be for Hummels to be fit but it's unlikely. The first 15-20' minutes of the game should be like in Allianz, we need to keep the composure,the balance and find out what Madrid is up for tactically. Rushing it for a goal like there it's no tomorrow doesn't affect RM clearly. The attitude of the players must be like it for the entire game not our gameplay. We need some Italian recipe for tomorrow, an early goal will be fantastic but I don't think we have to aim for that at all costs.

I'm expecting Real Madrid to sit back and watch us trying, they are in charge after all but Bayern will be on a do or die mode and we know that we live up to those standards when we are up against the wall despite the results we always perform regardless the outcome, it's always close. Robben will step up in this game I'm sure, two consecutive big games being subdued for Arjen is abnormal. Lewy will be there to drag some defenders and attention on him so Robben and Muller will find some spaces. It would be vital to feed Lewandowski in the first 15 minutes so RM's defense "feels" him into the box, fear factor, unlike invisible Muller at Munich.


Zidane is not stupid he played football and he saw what our problems are. He will press us high and will attack us for a goal or two. RM will not park the bus waiting for us to score 2 goals . They have the players to attack us.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:22 pm

Achilles wrote:I don't think we are in need to go all guns blazing from the first minute, we're chasing a normal win not a miracle. I'd take the extra time and penalties too with Lewandowski fit. My biggest wish would be for Hummels to be fit but it's unlikely. The first 15-20' minutes of the game should be like in Allianz, we need to keep the composure,the balance and find out what Madrid is up for tactically. Rushing it for a goal like there it's no tomorrow doesn't affect RM clearly. The attitude of the players must be like it for the entire game not our gameplay. We need some Italian recipe for tomorrow, an early goal will be fantastic but I don't think we have to aim for that at all costs.

I'm expecting Real Madrid to sit back and watch us trying, they are in charge after all but Bayern will be on a do or die mode and we know that we live up to those standards when we are up against the wall despite the results we always perform regardless the outcome, it's always close. Robben will step up in this game I'm sure, two consecutive big games being subdued for Arjen is abnormal. Lewy will be there to drag some defenders and attention on him so Robben and Muller will find some spaces. It would be vital to feed Lewandowski in the first 15 minutes so RM's defense "feels" him into the box, fear factor, unlike invisible Muller at Munich.


Not gonna say what I think about this "normal win" not being a miracle, because it would only get certain people fired up again, but I think it's highly unlikely they won't score at home at all, especially given our defense...
And going out on a close call or penalties (which IMHO were likely, would we make it) is something that would definitely mark the end of us at least being able to play these teams, as Kalle would say: "reinforcements? Why bother? We're soooo good anyway" and pat his shoulder again...
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby Achilles » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:24 pm

Effenberg777 wrote:Zidane is not stupid he played football and he saw what our problems are. He will press us high and will attack us for a goal or two. RM will not park the bus waiting for us to score 2 goals . They have the players to attack us.

Pressing with going all out are two different things, Atletico presses like hell they don't tend to attack first though leaving spaces or losing composure at the midfield let alone the backline. Of course they will at 2/3 of the pitch to destroy our build up, Einstein.
I didn't say they park the bus but they will sit on that 2-1 aggregate, I don't think they will push for an early going forward with 7-8 players and let spaces for a possible counter or Robbery going on 1v1 that's Zidane as a coach man what are you talking about, the guy is a mix of Portuguese & Italian style of coaching, you don't see that he is playing absolutely for the scoreboard? He is trying to nullify his opponent not to thrash him. He was afraid of AS Roma & Manchester City for god's sake...

We had problems at Munich too before the game started, I didn't see what RM or Zidane were prepared(?) We were slightly better on the first half, we could have gone 2-0 over them and it would a whole another game & tie. Judging Bayern with 10-men while they already conceded against a full RM squad it's not the case for me, I'd take the first half as comparison and we did really fine, more chances to score, equally solid defense.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby Achilles » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:30 pm

#12 wrote:Not gonna say what I think about this "normal win" not being a miracle, because it would only get certain people fired up again, but I think it's highly unlikely they won't score at home at all, especially given our defense...
And going out on a close call or penalties (which IMHO were likely, would we make it) is something that would definitely mark the end of us at least being able to play these teams, as Kalle would say: "reinforcements? Why bother? We're soooo good anyway" and pat his shoulder again...

I didn't expect less from you in fact I'd be surprised if you said otherwise.
And even if they score at home? 1-2 suits us well, 1-3 we go through, 2-3 we go through again. It's a miracle to win in Bernabeu with a 1-2 win or 1-3? It's super difficult but not mission impossible, that's all I'm saying.

Well I'm talking with a guy saying Carlo Raus and Ancelotti fraud before even the winter break...
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby SrLuisGuilherme » Mon Apr 17, 2017 12:46 pm

I actually wish Bale played, Asensio did pretty well in the second half...
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