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[2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Tue Apr 18, 2017 7:45 pm

Real Madrid will win
6
14%
It will end in a draw
5
11%
Bayern Munich will win
33
75%
 
Total votes : 44

Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby prasun77 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:32 pm

MiaSanFCB wrote:Some stats prior to the match :coffee:

- Bayern have lost their last 4 matches against Real Madrid in UCL (scoring just 2 goals in that matches).

- Bayern have lost their last 5 matches at the Bernabeu in UCL (6 counting UCL 2009/10 Final - Last victory 1-0 in UCL 2000/01 SF).

- Bayern haven't scored in their last 4 matches in Spain (0-1 RM 2013/14, 0-3 Barcelona 2014/15, 0-1 Atletico 2015/16, 0-1 Atletico 2016/17, last goal against Barcelona 2012/13 SF).

- Bayern haven't scored more than 1 goal (minimum to qualify) in 10 of the 11 previous matches in Madrid (Only time: UCL 1999/00 Group Stage 4-2 win).

- Bayern have won just 2 of their last 10 away games in UCL Knockout stages (4 draws and 4 defeats. Both victories were against Arsenal, in both matches Arsenal were down to 10 men).

- Bayern have qualified for UCL SF in their last 5 seasons (Last elimination before SF - UCL 2010/11 - 3-3 on away goals against Inter)

- Bayern have lost four home first legs in UEFA competition and won two of those ties on aggregate, most recently against FC Lokomotiv Moskva in the 1995/96 UEFA Cup first round (0-1 h, 5-0 a). Both defeats came when the first match finished 2-1 to the visitors, however; against Norwich City in the 1993/94 UEFA Cup second round (1-1 a) and FK Crvena zvezda in the 1990/91 European Champion Clubs' Cup semi-finals (2-2 a).

- Real Madrid have scored in their last 54 competitive matches (Club record- Last time they couldn't score - UCL 2015/16 SF 0-0 Manchester City)

- Real Madrid have received more than 1 goal at the Bernabeu in just 2 of their last 15 matches in UCL knockout stages (5-2 Nicosia in 2011/12 and 3-4 Schalke 2014/15, winning 12 of that 15 matches).

- Real Madrid have qualified for UCL SF in their last 6 seasons (Last elimination before SF - UCL 2009/10 - 2-1 on aggregate against Lyon)

- Only twice in UEFA Champions League history a team have overhauled a first-leg home defeat to win the tie. (Bayern 1-0, 2-3 Inter 2010/11 and Panathinaikos 1-0, 0-3 Ajax 1995/96).

- Real Madrid have lost only one of the 31 UEFA competition ties in which they won the first leg away from home. The exception came against Odense BK in the 1994/95 UEFA Cup third round when a 3-2 away success preceded a 2-0 home reverse.

Stats are made to be broken but...it seems unlikely this time :shock: :shock:


That's the beauty of sport despite these records we will win and everyone will say "**** logic!"

We have 100% chance of going through..If real can dominate in allianz we can dominate at the bernabeu ..with lewa and hummels back its not just 2 players back but a wholly different level of morale..madrid will be conservative to protect their lead and we will be aggressive from the start..1 early goal and the whole scenario changes..
And yes..just like we were reduced to 10 men they can be too..whatever happened to us can happen to them..So yes..We MUST go through or at least keep the mindset..
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby Manchu » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:33 pm

#12 wrote:5 max - if and only IF we play the best away game in 4 years...

Pep, and his 1 away game won out of 9, is gone. Ancelotti has a better away record. That's the only reason that I give us any chance. If Heynckes was in charge, I would gives us a 80% probability of making it through, but he's not.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby ottackon » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:35 pm

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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby RAJBAYERN » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:38 pm

Lewa is back but what the hell with the CBs...
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby Effenberg777 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:39 pm

You guys have ever been injured during some sport activity? The pain doesnt go away just like that if you imagine that Hummels and Lewy will come back and will perform like nothing happen wont be the case.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby RAJBAYERN » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:44 pm

Effenberg777 wrote:You guys have ever been injured during some sport activity? The pain doesnt go away just like that if you imagine that Hummels and Lewy will come back and will perform like nothing happen wont be the case.


Ok you want to pretend us that you are a professional athlete and know everything about injuries and muscles, but this is a kill or die situation, so your adrenaline must be at top.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:46 pm

don't kill me but I have a feeling that we will win 3-2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just had a vision!!!!!!!!!!!! Robben,Vidal and Lewa
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby PunkCapitalist » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:46 pm

If we had Hummels available and Lewy as well, and if Xabi weren't pretty much guaranteed to start, I would remain optimistic. But with no proper CB and Xabi in the starting lineup, I just can't be optimistic.

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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby RAJBAYERN » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:48 pm

ramsej84 wrote:don't kill me but I have a feeling that we will win 3-2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just had a vision!!!!!!!!!!!! Robben,Vidal and Lewa


So why kill you? :lol:
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:51 pm

ramsej84 wrote:don't kill me but I have a feeling that we will win 3-2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just had a vision!!!!!!!!!!!! Robben,Vidal and Lewa



I can't comprehend your way of thinking.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby Effenberg777 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:52 pm

RAJBAYERN wrote:
Effenberg777 wrote:You guys have ever been injured during some sport activity? The pain doesnt go away just like that if you imagine that Hummels and Lewy will come back and will perform like nothing happen wont be the case.


Ok you want to pretend us that you are a professional athlete and know everything about injuries and muscles, but this is a kill or die situation, so your adrenaline must be at top.

I dont want to pretend anything I was playing football during my youth and I am running marathons from time to time. I am telling you that you cant ignore injuries. Yes you can run 5 10 minutes then give up with an aggravated injury. Hummels doesnt seem to have an easy to ignore injury.

And I am afraid adrenaline wont help you in this situation. I ve seen lots of athlets giving up in finals or decisive games/competitions because injuries.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:53 pm

RAJBAYERN wrote:
Effenberg777 wrote:You guys have ever been injured during some sport activity? The pain doesnt go away just like that if you imagine that Hummels and Lewy will come back and will perform like nothing happen wont be the case.


Ok you want to pretend us that you are a professional athlete and know everything about injuries and muscles, but this is a kill or die situation, so your adrenaline must be at top.



Uhm yeah, I've had some minor injuries and had problems playing even at the low level I took part in.
I don't claim to know about the amount of stress in a CL quarter final, but I can imagine that it is pretty **** big.
If Boateng really has a minor fissure torn he'll definatly not make it.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:54 pm

Both Hummels and Boateng most probably out... How about Alonso-Alaba CB, Thiago, Vidal, Müller midfield?

Still doubt we'll avoid a trashing, but might work defensively
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:55 pm

#12 wrote:
bastos80 wrote:
#12 wrote:With our record it's not just unlucky... It's embarrassing how we overall did on penalties since 2012...


Win against Madrid, loss against Chelsea, win against Chelsea, win against Leverkusen, loss against Dortmund, win against BVB.
What's the problem? :?


I said overall... That includes "in-game" penalties...


Well, and I'm only talking about penalty shootouts so i don't care.
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Re: [2017-04-18] Real Madrid vs Bayern Munich

Postby MiaSanFCB » Sun Apr 16, 2017 7:55 pm

ramsej84 wrote:don't kill me but I have a feeling that we will win 3-2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I just had a vision!!!!!!!!!!!! Robben,Vidal and Lewa

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