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[2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Wed Sep 27, 2017 7:45 pm

Paris Saint-Germain F.C. will win
14
36%
It will end in a draw
3
8%
Bayern Munich will win
22
56%
 
Total votes : 39

Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:35 pm

Vs psg I want to see Javi M plus Vidal in mdf...
With Boa and Hummels as the central pair...


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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby MoFattal » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:22 pm

I think Javi Martinez can solve a lot of our recent defensive fragility if placed in midfield. We have two very offensive-minded fullbacks in Kimmich and Alaba. Someone needs to fill the void when they both move forward as most of the time they do. Alonso was used for that role over the past three seasons. Javi could do really well there. Plus, I think he's going to be far down the pecking order with Boateng returning and Sule proving his worth.

All our central midfielders are offensive-minded, so we need some balance. We're being exposed on the break a lot by our opponents. Now, we will be having the likes of in-form Neymar, Mbappe, and Cavani running against our exposed defense. The current "tactics" are not working. And we have no chance of keeping them from creating chances if we continue to deploy the same playing style. My preferred formation for this game (I'm dreaming, I know!) would be:


This way we can easily switch back to a winger-based formation with the introduction of any of Robbery.
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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby Coman » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:43 pm

We saw enough of Javi in midfield in pre-season ... and we also saw enough of Javi in defense in the last game of last season and current season.

His place right now : 4th defender, where Boateng, Hummels and Süle are clearly better and 5th midfielder where Vidal, Thiago, Rudy and Tolisso are clearly more ok to play this role on a physical and tactical point of view.

Javi in midfield = disaster.

And look at how we play for years, Martinez is clearly not the type of midfield we need for our game. Even with Ancelotti.

PSG biggest weakness ? His left back. So Robben starter at 110%.

For me :
Neuer - Kimmich, Boateng (or Süle), Hummels, Alaba - Vidal, Thiago - Robben, James, Ribéry - Lewandowski

For Ancelotti with his awful choices, it will probably be a 4-3-3 as he has no nuts and will play defensivly :
Neuer - Kimmich, Martinez, Hummels, Alaba - Tolisso, Vidal, Thiago - Robben, Lewandowski, Ribéry
(We lose there)
Bayern 3-3-3-1 build-up under Heynckes :
Neuer - Boateng Hummels Thiago - Kimmich Vidal Alaba - Robben Müller James - Lewandowski
Neuer- Boateng Vidal Hummels- Kimmich Martinez Alaba- Robben James Ribéry- Lewandowski
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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby MoFattal » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:52 pm

For me, he's exactly the type of midfielder we need. We need someone in the middle who is more defensive than offensive. If you look at the goals we concede, they're all the same: we lose possession, our full backs and central midfielders are all around the opponent's box, a long ball is played to the wings and the ball is squared into the middle of the box (here comes Javi!).
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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby Coman » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:01 pm

There is a moment people need to understand Martinez will not play in midfield anymore except if Tolisso, Vidal and Thiago are all injured.

It's like if a ask Ancelotti to play Coman center-forward.

I know it's just a wish and I understand, really I do, the fact that the 2012/14 Javi Martinez could be amazing and help our midfield on a defensive point of view. But he is not the same anymore and except if he play an entire year as midfield without injury, I don't see him back at the top level.
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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 3:07 pm

MoFattal wrote:I think Javi Martinez can solve a lot of our recent defensive fragility if placed in midfield. We have two very offensive-minded fullbacks in Kimmich and Alaba. Someone needs to fill the void when they both move forward as most of the time they do. Alonso was used for that role over the past three seasons. Javi could do really well there. Plus, I think he's going to be far down the pecking order with Boateng returning and Sule proving his worth.

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This way we can easily switch back to a winger-based formation with the introduction of any of Robbery.


I would only move Mueller farther back
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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby aterford » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:03 pm

Coman wrote:There is a moment people need to understand Martinez will not play in midfield anymore except if Tolisso, Vidal and Thiago are all injured.

It's like if a ask Ancelotti to play Coman center-forward.

I know it's just a wish and I understand, really I do, the fact that the 2012/14 Javi Martinez could be amazing and help our midfield on a defensive point of view. But he is not the same anymore and except if he play an entire year as midfield without injury, I don't see him back at the top level.


This....Javi's days of playing midfield are LONG gone. And as you said...even IF Carlo wanted to play him there, I don't think he's nearly the same level midfielder anymore, his game now is much more suited to CB, and that's okay. I like him at CB just fine and we have plenty of good midfield options.
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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby Firefox1234 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:05 pm

MoFattal wrote:This game will be the turning point (either positive or negative) of the season.

Meh...it's only September...
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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:13 pm

Only one way to stop their attack. #VoteMUTU4FCBCoachUntilEndOfSeason

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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:15 pm

MUTU wrote:Only one way to stop their attack. #VoteMUTU4FCBCoachUntilEndOfSeason



just a reminder ... football is played 11 v 11 :lol:
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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby shpati_L1 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:16 pm

Coman wrote:PSG biggest weakness ? His left back. So Robben starter at 110%.


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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:17 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:Only one way to stop their attack. #VoteMUTU4FCBCoachUntilEndOfSeason



just a reminder ... football is played 11 v 11 :lol:

Oh dear me, I thought it was OK since Ancelotti never sees Mueller play on the wing.

OK here goes an 11v11 version :) #VoteMUTU4FCBCoachUntilEndOfSeason

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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby Roonzil » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:49 pm

If Süle plays....can I put some money on at least 5 Neymar dives as soon as our Mountain as much as breathes into his direction?
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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby IsiahRashad » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:19 pm

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:
MUTU wrote:Only one way to stop their attack. #VoteMUTU4FCBCoachUntilEndOfSeason



just a reminder ... football is played 11 v 11 :lol:

Oh dear me, I thought it was OK since Ancelotti never sees Mueller play on the wing.

OK here goes an 11v11 version :) #VoteMUTU4FCBCoachUntilEndOfSeason



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Re: [2017-09-27] PSG vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Sep 14, 2017 5:24 pm

Roonzil wrote:If Süle plays....can I put some money on at least 5 Neymar dives as soon as our Mountain as much as breathes into his direction?
I wish someone stamps on that prick's face...
Sule's size 47 would be perfect for it!

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