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[27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

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Who will win the match Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen!

Bayern Wins (FC Bayern Munchen go through)
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46%
Draw (FC Bayern Munchen go through)
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28%
Lyon wins (FC Bayern Munchen go through)
11
16%
Lyon wins (Lyon go through)
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9%
 
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby garrincha1982 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:48 pm

I am praying man because it cannot be fair play to ban someone who has never offended before this way,they always give suspended suspensions and if your do it again then you are done.

I hope the affair outside of football is not what has affected their judgement here.

Strange that referee who sent ribery off is italian and a fiorentina fan,isn't that strange.
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby GioElber » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:21 pm

It s really weird that UEFA wouldn t allow the teams in the final to play with their best possible squad. For god sake, it suppose to be a spectacle on S.Bernabeu. I still deeply believe they ll let him play the final. It s in the interest of everyone; players, clubs, sponsors, spectators, and UEFA itself. I wish Inter in the final, cause Barca would be hardly stopped if they break Inter.
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby MrLinky » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:27 pm

What a joke the UEFA are, they just made big, big fools out of themselves. A very insensitive, careless and excessive decision. I thought the bans were supposed to be mild, making it possible for the teams in the final to play at full strength. First, Platini talks about giving each team the chance to enter the final with the best possible line-up, making it a true spectacle for everyone to watch and then you get a decision like this.

What they did, was incorrect, unjust and unfair, handing the team that’ll be playing us in the final an advantage from the get go. Lisandro himself pointed out that the tackle wasn’t as bad as it initially might have looked liked and it was completely unintentional. There was no malicious intent on that tackle by Franck, he never meant to hurt anyone, he was just a second too late in that challenge. Suspending a player - who never stood out with harsh fouls in his entire career - because of that for the most important game of his life is scandalous. Bitter, not just for Ribery, who’s going through a rough time at the moment, but also for this club as a whole.

I think it’s safe to say that someone like Ronaldo or Messi would have never received a verdict like this. You can only congratulate the men in charge for their immense incompetence. 3 game ban for that ? The word “ridiculous” doesn’t quite describe it. You get to play 13 matches maximum in the CL if everything goes well. If you get a 3-match ban for that sort of a foul, I don’t wanna know what kind of a punishment you would get for a more violent challenge. Maybe banned for the entire competition ?! Absurd.

If anyone's interested, here's a 18 minute video of last night's glorious match with Marcel Reif commentating:

http://www.mysoccerplace.net/video/lyon-vs-bayern-0-3-highlights-27-4-2010
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby machkover » Wed Apr 28, 2010 5:44 pm

dariusGK21 wrote:All I can say is our board is doing a great job. ....... with Beckenbauer, Hoeness and Rummenigge ... we have the right people in charge and leading this club.

I would rather say we finally managed to have the right Coach . he will be of great help and guidance to the boarding staff in future concerning transfers !! i would give millions to know who suggested LVG for the club . is it really The Kaizer Beck ??
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby nur4bayern » Wed Apr 28, 2010 6:17 pm

MrLinky wrote:Lisandro himself pointed out that the tackle wasn’t as bad as it initially might have looked liked and it was completely unintentional. There was no malicious intent on that tackle by Franck, he never meant to hurt anyone, he was just a second too late in that challenge. Suspending a player - who never stood out with harsh fouls in his entire career - because of that for the most important game of his life is scandalous. Bitter, not just for Ribery, who’s going through a rough time at the moment, but also for this club as a whole.


You stated exactly what should be at the core of any investigation by UEFA regarding suspensions/bans etc. Malicious intent to injure should be the main thing and it is obvious that wasn't the case with Ribery. However, it does not surprise me that UEFA have hit him hard, not because of anything he did on the pitch mind you, but instead because of his affair with a prostitute, albeit a very hot one, which has blemished football/soccer. I honestly believe that's the mentality behind the ban, of course that would be denied by any UEFA official. A total bullsh*t deal for sure. Bayern has done what they need too by challenging the suspension but that's just semantics, it won't change UEFA's decision.
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby walter » Wed Apr 28, 2010 8:58 pm

SilentStrike wrote:
walter wrote:As much as I hate seeing RIbery miss the final, the truth is we play collectively better without him. Maybe it's not good to have two wing wizards playing together. Altintop was great yesterday and I have always had great respect for him, but hopefully we wont miss RIbery's magic too much in the final.

We need someone like Ribery to crack the defense of Inter. I dont see Hamit doing that.



Yes, but when we have Ribery and Robben all we do is pass the ball to them and hope they can work their magic, so it all depends on whether they have good day or not and not so much on whether our team plays well collectively. Altintop might not have the dribbling skills that RIbery has, but he has other skills like defending in which he surpasses Ribery. Inter demonstrated that against Barcelona you don't need a wing wizard or a great dribbler to score against them, and the key factor against Barcelona is whether we can stop Messi or not. Against Inter, Fiorentina already demonstrated that placing 2-3 payers on Ribery and Robben when they have possession pretty much neutralizes our attack, and that is exactly what Mourinho would do. My point is I think we play a lot more balanced with one wing wizard at a time, so there is a tradeoff whether Ribery plays or not.

Also, when was the last time Ribery played a nice through ball to a striker? all he does now is try to force is way past defenders inside the box. Last night that pass that Altintop made for the second goal was magic, and I doubt RIbery in his current form/mental state would have done that.
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby Aequitas1987 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:02 pm

OMG. I must be dreaming, walter you are the only other person who thinks like me. I have been saying the same thing since December but people dont like it. :( I get shut down by Robbery lovers, when the fact is that the collective team mentality is MUCH MUCH better with only one on the pitch.
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby YlonenXabi » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:07 pm

That mentality is ok when you play against Arminia Bielefeld. But in Champions League final aganst Inter IT DOESN'T WORK

The best example is Müller. He has played some good games in Bundesliga, but he is the worst player ever in CL. I really hate him.
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby sch0ll7 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:11 pm

I would rather say finally managed to have the right Coach . he will be of great help and guidance to the boarding staff in future concerning transfers !! i would give millions to know who suggested LVG for the club . is it really The Kaizer Beck ??


Jupp Heynckes suggested we should appoint LVG...they go way back as LVG was coach of Barca and Heynckes was coach of Real Madrid...so when he was leaving Bayern last season he suggested LVG to our board.
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby sch0ll7 » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:16 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:That mentality is ok when you play against Arminia Bielefeld. But in Champions League final aganst Inter IT DOESN'T WORK

The best example is Müller. He has played some good games in Bundesliga, but he is the worst player ever in CL. I really hate him.


A CL team needs few superstars to win anything...It is easy to stop only Robben but when you have 2 world class wingers than they cant see it coming.

i guess it is easier in BL but in CL you just need those 2 guys.

What if Robben becomes "glass man" again?...than we surely need some other world class player to step in and take the team forward...because Muller and Pranjic cant do it.

I agree that our boys showed great things when those two were injured...but do u think if there wasnt for Robben that we would still be in CL? I think not.

Like LVG said...you need those kind of players because they can always decide the winner when it is most important...I dont see Muller or Pranjic stepping up when it is most important....on the other side I see Ribery and Robben taking thing into their own hands and shift up a gear.
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby walter » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:23 pm

A CL team needs few superstars to win anything...It is easy to stop only Robben but when you have 2 world class wingers than they cant see it coming.


Not true if we learned anything from the Fiorentina experience.
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby YlonenXabi » Wed Apr 28, 2010 10:33 pm

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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby eddinanM3 » Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:08 am

Thats why Pranjic shouldn't be playing in the CL final and Altintop should, because he CAN make the pass that leads to goals and he CAN defend on the touch line when one of our defenders is beaten and he CAN dribble into open spaces on the counter to create something, plus he has a shot which Pranjic doesn't and he CAN play physical enough to match up with Inter in a CL Final which Pranjic again can't!

The odds are even if UEFA accepts our appeal they will probably drop it to a two game suspension which doesn't help in this case. AND that is probably why they made it three games in the first place.
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Re: [27-04-2010] Lyon vs FC Bayern Munchen

Postby Niya » Thu Apr 29, 2010 9:05 am

so we are going to play with inter .....some people are saying we don't need Robben or Ribbery but i am 100% against it ..Bayern cant play with ought them i mean cant ,ya can experiment let both of them rest for 15 matches and see what happens ya will see Bayern struggling to score even a one goal can even control the ball..Football is something ya should put ya mind into it ya may find they play well in one match when Ribbery or Robben is not there it aint gonna happen in the second match ...if Ribbery cant play its a big dis-advantage inter will have three man advantage if Ribbery is not in final...we played well in Lyon not because Ribbery was not there ...Schweinsteiger,Lahm,Altıntop,Contento and olic played well and there was Robben ...why we need the legs like robben or Ribbery :
1.when likes of Robben or Ribbery is there the defending team is putting three players around a single player.
2.we have Three man free on the field .
3.When both play six players they will find it really difficult control the game unless we give them balls freely..
4.We have more free space and create more chances plus Ribbery and Robben have speed ,skill and quality, both players are dead ball specialist ya can see why they are called dead ball specialist in every match they play ..
For those reason they are the most most important players i am not saying others are not important but some people are saying we don't need them that's why...
yesterday match i saw Lahm and contento lose concentration and left players unmarked both end of the bitch , coach should remind them to be more concentrated when ya playing against inter ya have sneijder he is also a dead ball specialist ..if ya leave that kind of space they will take the advantage...Lahm and contento was great but they need lil more concentration to cover those spaces...we can win against inter but we need both Robben and Ribbery or one of them ..and the likes of Schweinsteiger,Lahm,Altıntop,Contento...i don't see why we put Muller up front i don't like that player he is nothing more than a slow pop he is slowing the game and losing the ball..we can put Alintop instead of or klose ...i really don't like him he is too slow slower than MVB ..thats a downfall..we see in the formation...we can win against inter i am sure
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