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[2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Tue Feb 23, 2016 8:45 pm

Juventus will win
8
21%
It will end in a draw
4
10%
Bayern Munich will win
27
69%
 
Total votes : 39

Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby RAJBAYERN » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:48 pm

JANCKER wrote: they're a team capable of saving a 1-0 lead in 180 minutes.


Not in the Allianz Arena if we have most of our best players available.
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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby JANCKER » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:49 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
JANCKER wrote:We have positive records against Rioma and Rubentus... if it had to be an Italian side, Rioma would've been a walk in the park and btw RIP Rioma... Rube should've qualified as 1st in the group. We've got ourselves the most difficult opponent we could get in this phase... never easy in a two game match with a team that is known for letting only a few goals in, they're a team capable of saving a 1-0 lead in 180 minutes.

This...
We have to score more than one and early... Back in 2013 that Alaba goal after just a couple of seconds was the all important goal of the two legs...


Maybe Buffon will be generous again, who knows...
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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby RAJBAYERN » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:53 pm

ramsej84 wrote:We have to score more than one and early... Back in 2013 that Alaba goal after just a couple of seconds was the all important goal of the two legs...


Yes, because with this goal in the beginning was mathematically enough for advance :lol: , but the Mandzukic goal in Turin was very important too, because before that goal, I remember Juventus pressing too much on offense and this first goal automatically demoralized Juventus and Bayern dominate the rest of the game with authority!
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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby PunkCapitalist » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:57 pm

JANCKER wrote:We have positive records against Rioma and Rubentus... if it had to be an Italian side, Rioma would've been a walk in the park and btw RIP Rioma... Rube should've qualified as 1st in the group. We've got ourselves the most difficult opponent we could get in this phase... never easy in a two game match with a team that is known for letting only a few goals in, they're a team capable of saving a 1-0 lead in 180 minutes.

Very true. They are an extremely solid defense and have the composure not to lose a 1-0 lead stupidly.

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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby RAJBAYERN » Mon Dec 14, 2015 3:59 pm

The winter preseason get more importance with this draw, because unlike last season, Bayern have not much time for get better, it is important to begin the 2016 playing well and having the important players fit.
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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby Steph » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:00 pm

What do you guys think of Morata? I haven't watched him a lot but I remember watching him and really thinking he was awful. He scored a goal, and it was a good one, but he just seemed very poor on the ball.
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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:00 pm

RAJBAYERN wrote:The winter preseason get more importance with this draw, because unlike last season, Bayern have not much time for get better, it is important to begin the 2016 playing well and having the important players fit.



I wish we had less time last season.
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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby JANCKER » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:06 pm

Dybala is becoming a key player in their attack, forget Morata... they're not that dangerous in attack, but they can take a lot in defense, where everyone contributes... Allegri gets too much shit but he's not that bad at all.
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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby quaazi » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:09 pm

I think that, as in 2013, Juventus will most struggle with our pressing. Serie A is tactically sophisticated, but they still don't have the tendency towards energetic counterpressing of the Guardiola/Klopp mould. Of course, while in 2013 our pressing was a bit more disjointed than these days (we played a slightly lower back line), Mandzukic made more than up for it, pressing the Juve back three as if he himself were three players. I don't think he'll be this big of a threat this time around for us, though - if we field Martinez against him, his offensive capability will be neutralized, and we are too good at subverting pressure usually.

I do feel that Juve will bring against us a fairly Chelsea-esque battleplan, though. A deep line with only two players doing forward pressing with the aim to create space on the counter or through a long, high ball. We can deal with this. The real issue is keeping our composure should we go a goal down first, which I feel likely to happen.
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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby quaazi » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:15 pm

Also, should Robben or Costa be fit and fielded against Evra, then that could end up a complete massacre.
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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:17 pm

Steph wrote:What do you guys think of Morata? I haven't watched him a lot but I remember watching him and really thinking he was awful. He scored a goal, and it was a good one, but he just seemed very poor on the ball.


He's not a starter.
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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby CaptainLahm21 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:17 pm

with the first leg being away im not confident at all dont get why group winners get the away game first seems a disadvantage to me
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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:18 pm

quaazi wrote:Also, should Robben or Costa be fit and fielded against Evra, then that could end up a complete massacre.



If we field a full strength squad for once, we'll win, no doubt imo.
If, like now, our wing play is completely dead, we'll most likely lose.
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Re: [2016-02-23] Juventus vs Bayern Munich

Postby bastos80 » Mon Dec 14, 2015 4:20 pm

CaptainLahm21 wrote:with the first leg being away im not confident at all dont get why group winners get the away game first seems a disadvantage to me



Because it is generally considered as an advantage if you get to play away first. Score an away goal and you have a huge advantage for the second leg at home. You can really set the tone for the rest of the tie, when you play at home first it's possible you already lose it.
It's just a small thing but it could be huge.
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