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[2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Wed Oct 23, 2013 7:45 pm

Bayern Munich will win
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It will end in a draw
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FC Viktoria Plzeň will win
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:01 am

Dante's injury complicates things a bit? Will we see Martinez return, either in midfield or defence? Either way, the winner here is Kirchhoff, who is certain to play. It is pretty obvious he is preferred over Van Buyten these days.

Ribery missing this one does not worry me too much. If Gotze plays like yesterday we won't miss him. It might even be beneficial so that Gotze finally gets a full game.

My lineup, assuming Ribery is out:



another alternative could be Muller in for Rafinha, With Lahm taking the RB spot and Schweini in midfield. Not sure which would be better considering our back four for this game.

Hopefully Martinez will come on at some point. I am assuming he is not fit enough to start.
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby MUTU » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:09 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Either way, the winner here is Kirchhoff, who is certain to play. It is pretty obvious he is preferred over Van Buyten these days.

I'd say if Martinez is fit enough to start, Kirchhoff wouldn't make the starting XI. But I agree with the general notion that this is as good a chance as he'd get in the foreseeable future for starting a Champions League match. Badstuber and Dante out injured and Boateng suspended, while Martinez is at best doubtful.
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:29 am

I think the one missing out in that case would be Van Buyten. Pep subs in Kirchhoff often but Van Buyten seems to have disappeared.
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby MUTU » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:38 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:I think the one missing out in that case would be Van Buyten. Pep subs in Kirchhoff often but Van Buyten seems to have disappeared.

That's true, but at the same time, van Buyten has started (and played the full 90 minutes) in 4 competitive matches for Bayern this season (2 in the Bundesliga, 2 in the German Cup) whereas Kirchhoff has always come on as a substitute to stabilise play (and mostly in defensive midfield not central defence).
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby tflags » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:17 pm

Anyone else thinks Kirchhoff doesn't have the speed to play CB under that formation? Then again, is van Buyten any faster?
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby MUTU » Sun Oct 20, 2013 1:36 pm

tflags wrote:Anyone else thinks Kirchhoff doesn't have the speed to play CB under that formation?

I don't have an opinion (I haven't seen him enough), but FIFA 14 certainly doesn't agree.

They gave him
acceleration 66 and sprint 76. [source]

By comparison, they gave Dante
acceleration 67 and sprint 69. [source]

They gave Badstuber
acceleration 54 and sprint 68 [source]

Boateng
acceleration 68, sprint 79 [source]

and van Buyten
acceleration 31, sprint 27 [source]
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby tflags » Sun Oct 20, 2013 2:11 pm

I just filled an application to work on player data for EA's FIFA. It's open to anyone on the internet and all you need to do is confirm you are allowed to work under your country's labor laws and confirm where you usually get the info from. Just say'in.
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby Firefox1234 » Sun Oct 20, 2013 6:54 pm

If Martinez couldnt make the bench yesterday i doubt he is fit enough to start in this game....
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby Badger » Sun Oct 20, 2013 10:05 pm

It really impresses me when I think of the missing players - Ribery, Alcantara, Shaqiri, Dante, Boateng, Badstuber and, possibly, Martinez - and still there seems little to worry about for this game. Moreover, that is not really a lack of respect for Viktoria Pilzen; it is merely a reflection on the depth of the squad and Guardiola's ability to win with almost any selection of players.

I'd be happy to see the following players start:

...although that is just the nominal 4-1-4-1 formation, and I'd expect it to morph into 3-4-3 for a lot of the game. ie:
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby MUTU » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:26 pm

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Referee for this match will be the Irishman Alan Kelly. He has never refereed Bayern before. [source]


This season, Alan Kelly refereed 4 matches in European competitions, dishing out 23 yellow cards and 1 red card, and awarding 2 penalties. [source]


Last season, his total in all competitions (26 matches) he handed out 93 yellow cards, 9 second yellow (red) cards, 6 direct red cards and awarded 7 penalties. [source]


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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby MoFattal » Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:52 am

Damn! Now there's a card-happy referee for you. Good thing Boateng is already out ;)
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby MUTU » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:14 am

MoFattal wrote:Damn! Now there's a card-happy referee for you. Good thing Boateng is already out ;)

I think that the amount of cards isn't too high.
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby MoFattal » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:33 am

In European competitions, it is ;)
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby AdepT » Tue Oct 22, 2013 7:49 am

An average nearing 6 YCs a game in UEFA games. I'd say that's too much.
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Re: [2013-10-23] Bayern Munich vs Viktoria Plzeň

Postby MUTU » Tue Oct 22, 2013 8:48 am

6 cards in a match = 3 cards each team. I'd say it's pretty standard to get 3 yellow cards in a CL match. Last CL match, even though it wasn't even close, there were 4 yellow cards and 1 red card.

Furthermore, you should base the strictness of a referee not just on that season but also on a full season. He gave out some 4 cards a match on average last season (2 per team).
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