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[2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:45 pm

Bayern Munich will win inside 90 minutes
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90%
Bayern Munich will win after extra time
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Bayern Munich will win on penalties after extra time
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Shakhtar Donetsk will win on penalties after extra time
0
No votes
Shakhtar Donetsk will go through on away goals after extra time
1
3%
Shakhtar Donetsk will win after extra time
0
No votes
Shakhtar Donetsk will go through on away goals inside 90 minutes
1
3%
Shakhtar Donetsk will win inside 90 minutes
1
3%
 
Total votes : 29

[2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby MatchBot » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:15 pm

Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk
Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk
Competition: UEFA Champions League
Venue: Allianz Arena, Munich

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  • [2015-02-17] Shakhtar Donetsk 0 - 0 Bayern Munich (UEFA Champions League)
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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby Firefox1234 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:43 pm

Nothing but a win will suffice, I expect a much better performance but you can bet Shaktar will park the bus like no other and will gladly takes us to penalties.
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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby pyrasur » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:46 pm

Keep the defense strong as well. Shakhtar would love to nick an away goal.
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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:16 pm

It's a must win of course now that we don't have any away goals. Hope we deliver because I don't want us to be humiliated on my birthday. :shock:
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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:17 pm

Hmm Huntelaar injured? :?
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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:09 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:It's a must win of course now that we don't have any away goals. Hope we deliver because I don't want us to be humiliated on my birthday. :shock:
mine is 2days later. I have a :evil: feeling...
I compared yest game as to the same sit in 2010 vs Fiorentina. If we qualify it will be after a hard fought battle... 2-1 or 3-2

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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Wed Feb 18, 2015 11:35 pm

FCBayernMunchen wrote:Hmm Huntelaar injured? :?

How this post ended up in this thread is beyond me. :lol:
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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby Ottomeister13 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:21 am

I say this.. if we concede one, we are out. If we score a fast 1-0 its game over for them.
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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby pyrasur » Thu Feb 19, 2015 3:40 am

Agree if we concede I think it will be very difficult bordering on impossible to get two goals past them once they just park the bus. We don't need to score quickly though. Just one goal and the one thing we can count on is Bayern killing the game by making it super boring with endless passing. I would be totally fine with that happening.
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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby ramsej84 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:54 am

0-0is the most dangerous scores to get when you are away. I'd rather lose 2-1...

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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby MUTU » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:53 am

Ottomeister13 wrote:I say this.. if we concede one, we are out. If we score a fast 1-0 its game over for them.

You're contradicting yourself in the two sentences you wrote, since we can both score a fast 1-0 and then concede later.

In fact, this is quite plausible.

We need to go out in search of that quick opener. Otherwise they will just bottle up the defence and work on the counter-attacks. Their players are very fast so this situation works quite well in their favour. If they keep a clean sheet, the worst case scenario for them is that they lose on penalties after extra time.

It's a very risk result, but I agree that if we score an early goal we are mostly through. They will defend though, they will really park the bus.
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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby MUTU » Thu Feb 19, 2015 8:56 am

ramsej84 wrote:0-0is the most dangerous scores to get when you are away. I'd rather lose 2-1...

I'd say the most dangerous score to get when you are away is to lose like 10-0 :P

But why would you rather lose 2-1? There isn't a score you can get in the 2nd leg that makes it better for you to lose the 1st leg 2-1 rather than draw 0-0. However, if you lose 2-1 in the first leg away and then draw 0-0 in the 2nd leg at home, you're out. If the first leg away is also a 0-0 draw, at least you take the match to extra time. There's simply no advantage to losing 2-1 over 0-0.
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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby envagyokazapad » Thu Feb 19, 2015 11:06 am

MUTU wrote:
ramsej84 wrote:0-0is the most dangerous scores to get when you are away. I'd rather lose 2-1...

I'd say the most dangerous score to get when you are away is to lose like 10-0 :P

But why would you rather lose 2-1? There isn't a score you can get in the 2nd leg that makes it better for you to lose the 1st leg 2-1 rather than draw 0-0. However, if you lose 2-1 in the first leg away and then draw 0-0 in the 2nd leg at home, you're out. If the first leg away is also a 0-0 draw, at least you take the match to extra time. There's simply no advantage to losing 2-1 over 0-0.


A non-goalless draw would be the only better score than 0-0 (excluding victories of course) imo
A loss is definitely not better.

I think our lineup against them pretty much killed off any chances to get a counter going (I don't even remember them having any decent attacks at all - even when Alonso got sent of the attack was more or less dead, even though Boateng missed the interception there). It looked to me like Guardiola played safe and risked little.
Most of our chances came from balls we got in the midfield, so perhaps a 2 CB setup with a higher defensive line in general would have been better in offense in this case. But then again who knows how we would have done against counters then.
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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby MUTU » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:13 pm

Updated the poll with all possible options :)
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Re: [2015-03-11] Bayern Munich vs Shakhtar Donetsk

Postby Ottomeister13 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 12:19 pm

MUTU wrote:
Ottomeister13 wrote:I say this.. if we concede one, we are out. If we score a fast 1-0 its game over for them.

You're contradicting yourself in the two sentences you wrote, since we can both score a fast 1-0 and then concede later.

In fact, this is quite plausible.

We need to go out in search of that quick opener. Otherwise they will just bottle up the defence and work on the counter-attacks. Their players are very fast so this situation works quite well in their favour. If they keep a clean sheet, the worst case scenario for them is that they lose on penalties after extra time.

It's a very risk result, but I agree that if we score an early goal we are mostly through. They will defend though, they will really park the bus.


I will elaborate.. If they score the 1-0, they are going to park the bus big time and make it hard for Bayern to even create any kind of chance. But if Bayern scores the 1-0 very soon in the match, Donezk HAS to open up, or else they are out and if they do, we will be able to beat them 2 or 3-0.. But the longer it stays 0-0 i even see certain Bayern players starting to panic like a Dante for example if he plays.
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