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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby ramsej84 » Tue Aug 23, 2016 11:56 pm

Lukas wrote:Yes I like Celtic. I want us to draw them, although a trip to Celtic Park would not be easy. Would be a great game though for sure and more exciting than a certain blue team from the other side of the hills (from where I am) again


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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby Lukas » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:11 am

I have one somewhere from about twelve years ago! Doesn't fit now but I keep all my old football shirts for nostalgia. I still watch some of their games, but only the big ones CL, EL, Scottish Cup, old firm of course. Unfortunately it's hard to get excited about most Scottish games these days though.
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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby MUTU » Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:39 am

MUTU wrote:Let's make some assumptions now.

Celtic won 5-2 at home against Hapoel Beer Sheva; assuming a qualification for Celtic.
Legia Warsaw won 2-0 away against Dundalk; assuming a qualification for Legia.
Monaco vs Villarreal is still quite open.
Roma vs Porto is still quite open.
Ludogorets Razgrad won 2-0 at home to Viktoria Plzen; assuming a qualification for Ludogrets.
APOEL vs Copenhagen is still quite open.
Gladbach won 3-1 away against Young Boys; assuming a qualification for Gladbach.
FC Rostov vs Ajax is still quite open.
Man City won 5-0 away against Steaua; assuming a qualification for City.
Salzburg vs Dinamo Zagreb is still quite open.

New update based on above assumptions:

Pot 1:
Real Madrid 176.142
Bayern Munich 163.035
Barcelona 159.142
Benfica 116.616
PSG 112.549
Juventus 107.087
CSKA 48.716
Leicester City N/A

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Would definitely end up in pot 2:
Atlético Madrid 144.142
Borussia Dortmund 110.035
Arsenal 105.256
Manchester City 99.256
Sevilla 95.642
[7] Porto 92.616
Napoli 90.087
Bayer Leverkusen 89.035

Pot 2 or 3:
Basel 87.755

Almost definitely Pot 3:
Tottenham 74.256
Dynamo Kyiv 65.976
Lyon 63.049
[10] Villarreal 60.142
[8] Ajax 58.112
PSV Eindhoven 57.112
Sporting CP 51.616

Pot 3 or 4:
Club Brugge 43.000
[5] Red Bull Salzburg 42.520
Borussia M'gladbach 42.035
[7] Roma 41.587
Celtic 40.460

Almost definitely Pot 4:
[10] Monaco 36.549
[3] APOEL 35.935
Besiktas 34.920
Legia Warsaw 28.000
[5] Dinamo Zagreb 25.775
Ludogrets Razgrad 25.625
[3] Copenhagen 24.720
[8] Rostov 11.716

Update after yesterday's results:

Pot 1:
Real Madrid 176.142
Bayern Munich 163.035
Barcelona 159.142
Benfica 116.616
PSG 112.549
Juventus 107.087
CSKA 48.716
Leicester City N/A

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Would definitely end up in pot 2:
Atlético Madrid 144.142
Borussia Dortmund 110.035
Arsenal 105.256
Manchester City 99.256
Sevilla 95.642
Porto 92.616
Napoli 90.087
Bayer Leverkusen 89.035

Almost definitely Pot 3:
Basel 87.755
Tottenham 74.256
Dynamo Kyiv 65.976
Lyon 63.049
[8] Ajax 58.112
PSV Eindhoven 57.112
Sporting CP 51.616
Club Brugge 43.000

Pot 3 or 4:
[5] Red Bull Salzburg 42.520
Borussia M'gladbach 42.035

Almost definitely Pot 4:
Celtic 40.460
Monaco 36.549
[3] APOEL 35.935
Besiktas 34.920
Legia Warsaw 28.000
[5] Dinamo Zagreb 25.775
Ludogrets Razgrad 25.625
[3] Copenhagen 24.720
[8] Rostov 11.716
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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby MUTU » Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:43 am

So bad news for Gladbach.

If they fail to qualify, they are obviously out.
If they qualify, Dinamo Zagreb eliminate Red Bull Salzburg and Rostov eliminate Ajax, they will end up in pot 3.
Any other circumstance (most likely scenario), they will end up in pot 4.

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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:22 am

Why are you so sure that being in pot 4 they are sure to get eliminated?

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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby MUTU » Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:26 am

ramsej84 wrote:Why are you so sure that being in pot 4 they are sure to get eliminated?

I'm not saying surely, but it makes it more difficult for them. It's obviously preferable to be in pot 3 than pot 4.
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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby Firefox1234 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:02 am

Maybe they can force an upset but I won't be holding my breath....
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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby tflags » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:31 am

I'm getting a little wary of pot 2. It does look more menacing that pot 1 to be honest.
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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby ramsej84 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:46 am

hopefully we get either Seville or Porto from pot 2
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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby ottackon » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:51 am

They almost managed to escape from the group of death last season, so let's wait and see.
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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby Lukas » Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:52 am

Would be happy enough with the Gooners or Napoli too. Atletico and you know who can sod off.
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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby prasun77 » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:23 pm

I desperately want Atletico..Those anti-football bastards must be taught a lesson soon.We must show that what happened 3 months ago was coincidence.
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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby JANCKER » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:37 pm

Champions League draw tomorrow, Manuel Neuer: "We are not afraid of Atletico Madrid or Antoine Griezmann."
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Re: [2016-08-25] Bayern Munich vs ??? — CL draw

Postby RedQueen » Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:45 pm

Got a question for the experts here. There's this CL draw simulator at https://inker.github.io/cl-draw/?mode=gs

I don't understand the restrictions imposed there. I have got the pot 1 allocations
A PSG
B Bayern
C Real
D ZSKA
E Leicester
F Juve
G Barca
H Benfica

Now I've drawn ManCity and the website reports "Possible groups for Manchester City: A, B, C, D"-

Why not F, G, H? I understand you can't be drawn against a team belonging to the same FA, but what other restrictions are there?
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