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[2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

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Bayern Munich will win the Champions League final
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Chelsea F.C. will win the Champions League final
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby OurDayWillCome » Fri May 25, 2012 1:58 pm

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YlonenXabi wrote:You guys must be a little less biased because most of you have been saying that Dortmund won the domestic double

Dortmund beat us fair and square. We can't expect to be winning titles when we haven't even managed to hold them to a draw since 2010. They were simply the most consistent team in Germany these last two years. Let's not forget that they haven't lost a domestic game since last September.

With Real Madrid, we were lucky with the timing, but I see no reason not to believe that we wouldn't have won anyway. Quality-wise I believe they are still a bit better than us, but that's just it. The difference is very small (when comparing just the 11 players who played, our bench sucks) and I do not think that just their game with Barca would have made the difference. We were superior in all areas of the pitch.

Hopefully next season we will meet again with a more favourable calendar for them and we will beat them again to end this once and for all.


I disagree with you saying quality wise they are still better than us.

First of all, they have a huge squad, which of course means they have more options, especially in attack, which i believe is better than ours, but the numbers has got alot to do with it.

Apart from there attack, man for man, i think we are better than them.
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri May 25, 2012 2:47 pm

OurDayWillCome wrote:I disagree with you saying quality wise they are still better than us.

First of all, they have a huge squad, which of course means they have more options, especially in attack, which i believe is better than ours, but the numbers has got alot to do with it.

Apart from there attack, man for man, i think we are better than them.

I guess it's a matter of opinion. If you look at the whole squad they were better than us this season for sure, because of our weak bench. Looking at just the main eleven, I think both are pretty close but they have more players capable of changing the game on their own.
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby openside50 » Fri May 25, 2012 4:35 pm

The worlds 10 best supported clubs around the world

From research done by SPORT+MARKT

1.Man Utd 354m
2.Barca 270m
3.Real 174m
4.Chelsea 135m
5.Arsenal 113m
6.AC Milan 99m
7.Liverpool 71m
8.Inter 49m
9.Bayern 24m
10.Juve 20m
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby quaazi » Fri May 25, 2012 4:54 pm

Which pretty much defeats your own point about how the Chelsea fanbase is local "working class" folk. Unless they started to breed like rabbits when I wasn't looking, I guess.
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby BayernLeb » Fri May 25, 2012 5:01 pm

openside50 wrote:The worlds 10 best supported clubs around the world

From research done by SPORT+MARKT

1.Man Utd 354m
2.Barca 270m
3.Real 174m
4.Chelsea 135m
5.Arsenal 113m
6.AC Milan 99m
7.Liverpool 71m
8.Inter 49m
9.Bayern 24m
10.Juve 20m



Mmm I really doubt the numbers especially a 24 M for Bayern and 20 M for Juve.
But you never know in this ignorant world, and if it is true you know the saying:
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and from this forum you should notice the quality of our "soldiers" ;)
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby quaazi » Fri May 25, 2012 5:09 pm

Well, the BuLi isn't marketed as well abroad as the Premier League is, that's true. Though I'd say that's a good thing.
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby BayernLeb » Fri May 25, 2012 5:13 pm

quaazi wrote:Well, the BuLi isn't marketed as well abroad as the Premier League is, that's true. Though I'd say that's a good thing.


Yes true I am not doubting that Bayern is below teams as ManUnited,Real,Barca...based on its fans base. I am only doubting the low number of 24M
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby MUTU » Sat May 26, 2012 8:08 am

I doubt these figures are accurate. Bayern is consistently beating all other teams in commercial income through sale of merchandise. If according to these stats, Manchester United have exactly 14 times the number of supporters, how is it possible that Bayern merchandise outsell theirs?
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby Mazen96 » Sat May 26, 2012 8:13 am

MUTU wrote:I doubt these figures are accurate. Bayern is consistently beating all other teams in commercial income through sale of merchandise. If according to these stats, Manchester United have exactly 14 times the number of supporters, how is it possible that Bayern merchandise outsell theirs?


Man United fans are cheap as f*ck :mrgreen:
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby quaazi » Sat May 26, 2012 8:29 am

Well the survey probably consists of people being asked "what is your favorite club", and most people aren't so invested into football to even know any other club that United, Barcelona and Real Madrid. Obviously they wouldn't buy any merchandise either.
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby AvatarX » Sat May 26, 2012 8:31 am

According to bleacherreport.com, the 15 Best Supported Clubs in World Football:

1. Manchester United
2. Real Madrid
3. Barcelona
4. Bayern Munich
5. Borussia Dortmund
6. Arsenal F.C.
7. Liverpool F.C.
8. Chelsea F.C.
9. Juventus F.C.
10. AC Milan
11. Internazionale F.C.
12. Olympique De Marseille
13. Celtic F.C.
14. F.C. Schalke 04
15. Rangers F.C.

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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby Mazen96 » Sat May 26, 2012 8:33 am

AvatarX wrote:According to bleacherreport.com, the 15 Best Supported Clubs in World Football:

1. Manchester United
2. Real Madrid
3. Barcelona
4. Bayern Munich
5. Borussia Dortmund
6. Arsenal F.C.
7. Liverpool F.C.
8. Chelsea F.C.
9. Juventus F.C.
10. AC Milan
11. Internazionale F.C.
12. Olympique De Marseille
13. Celtic F.C.
14. F.C. Schalke 04
15. Rangers F.C.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/8652 ... d-football


Makes more sense.
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat May 26, 2012 9:05 am

BayernLeb wrote:Yes true I am not doubting that Bayern is below teams as ManUnited,Real,Barca...based on its fans base. I am only doubting the low number of 24M

Like you, I think the list makes sense, but not the numbers.

AvatarX wrote:According to bleacherreport.com, the 15 Best Supported Clubs in World Football:

In this list, I doubt that Dortmund could be ahead of Liverpool, Juventus and Milan,


In the end these are based on surveys, so they can't be 100% accurate. Apart from the fact that like quaazi mentioned, not everyone surveyed will be a football fan, you also can't be 100% accurate unless you survey every person in the world.
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby quaazi » Sat May 26, 2012 9:29 am

FCBayernMunchen wrote:In this list, I doubt that Dortmund could be ahead of Liverpool, Juventus and Milan,


I don't think it's that unlikely actually, Dortmund is extremely popular in a country with the biggest population in Europe (and if you say Russia I will hit you). Milan has a highly successful local rival to deal with, Juventus lost a whole lot of glory hunters after they got relegated, Liverpool... well, okay, Liverpool should be one of the most supported sides, that's true.
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Re: [2012-05-19] Bayern Munich vs Chelsea F.C.

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sat May 26, 2012 9:31 am

quaazi wrote:I don't think it's that unlikely actually, Dortmund is extremely popular in a country with the biggest population in Europe (and if you say Russia I will hit you). Milan has a highly successful local rival to deal with, Juventus lost a whole lot of glory hunters after they got relegated, Liverpool... well, okay, Liverpool should be one of the most supported sides, that's true.

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