lau03143 wrote:sch0ll7 wrote:Please define "slow on the ball" ?
His one touch game still needs improving. He almost always takes at least two touches and slows the play down. But, we've been able to deal with that with how well we've been playing in every other area.
He rarely breaks forward at pace either with the ball, so he's also a slower runner than others.
But that's beside the point. The whole team offered very little in terms of tempo.
Firefox1234 wrote:The difference between Xavi/Pirlo and Kroos is that Kroos plays behind a striker where unlike those two who play much deeper in the midfield where pace is not as necessary. I hope Pep can put Kroos back in the midfield cause in my opinion thats where he best helps the team. Bayern are much slower on counters when Kroos is the AM or then when Muller or Shaqiri are there.
Jorge wrote:lau03143 wrote:sch0ll7 wrote:Please define "slow on the ball" ?
His one touch game still needs improving. He almost always takes at least two touches and slows the play down. But, we've been able to deal with that with how well we've been playing in every other area.
He rarely breaks forward at pace either with the ball, so he's also a slower runner than others.
But that's beside the point. The whole team offered very little in terms of tempo.
You are describing what a good deep lying mid is, the one that plays in front of a stopper, so you are supporting our argument. That’s Schweinsteiger and 20 other great central mids in the world do , most of them lack pace, they give 2-3 touches to the ball before releasing it which gives time to the targets to move around and create the channels in which the ball will be funneled through, from Xavi Alonso to Pirlo.
One touch play is more of a traditional number 10 (Ozil) In my opinion Kroos is a Hybrid that when at his best and with the right combo on his back he is exactly what the Bayern system needs as from the hole he can spin around a few touches before releasing to the wings high on the field, send the through pass to the box with one touch or pull the trigger when he roams on the edge of the box.
SilverX wrote:BTW, did anyone else watch is on FOX Soccer? I wanted to reach through the screen and slap that English little prick Warren Barton for all his comments against Bayern.
SilverX wrote:Truth is Kroos is very slow. He can release players with thru balls but never does because he waits too long and the other person is offside due to them starting the run. I wish Yupp would move either Muller or Shaq into that position with Robben staying on the right.
Even muller had a crap game, one good thing he did is back heel the ball to Robben which Robben f*cked up.
All in all, not one person had a good game, we were quite lucky to get away with it and progress. I just think the team went in with the mentality that Arsenal shouldn't score 3 goals and we are through, instead of going in there with WE need to score and finish them to move on.
BTW, did anyone else watch is on FOX Soccer? I wanted to reach through the screen and slap that English little prick Warren Barton for all his comments against Bayern.
Borusse wrote:Wenger might be right. Ive been telling you from the start Barcelona in form are better than you, the best in the world in fact but you dont listen. You say you can challenge them - of course! But the generation of players there is simply brilliant and on top of that they have Messi. Barca is not over-hyped, is not overrated. When in form they play the best football Ive seen in my lifetime.
Borusse wrote:Yes, you were in better form. But what is the saying? Form is temporary, class is permanent. Of course you have class but Barca is just one step ahead of everybody. Few defeats won't change that. They are simply the best which of course doesnt mean they cannot be defeated, even when in form. CL is not only about pure skill but also about luck and other factors.
You are not ready mentally to win the CL, somewhere along the way the winning mentality was lost.
Wenger's words may as well be changed into "Germany are not ready to win anything".
FCBayernMunchen wrote:I think both Borusse and sch0ll are right. It is funny how we are suddenly no longer considered joint favourites and a lot of people are expecting Juve to beat us. On the other hand it is true that at their best, Barca are better, although I don't think they have been at that level for a long time.
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