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[2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:30 pm

Hamburger SV will win
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6%
It will end in a draw
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Bayern Munich will win
17
94%
 
Total votes : 18

Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:49 pm

Olic: "This is not enough for the title"

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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby tflags » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:00 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:Everyone here has very different opinions. I think that Müller adds nothing to this team with his current form. He is playing as CAM and I can't remember anything good produced by him in the last few games. Just look at Kagawa in Dortmund and then compare him to our current Müller. He needs to play much better if he doesn't want to be benched.

And I'm also against Kroos - Schweini in the midfield for now. I think Kroos works so much better as CAM


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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby quaazi » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:32 pm

FIFA 12 is hardly basis for accurate factual information.
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----Müller----Müller----Müller----
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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby MoFattal » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:33 pm

tflags wrote:
YlonenXabi wrote:Everyone here has very different opinions. I think that Müller adds nothing to this team with his current form. He is playing as CAM and I can't remember anything good produced by him in the last few games. Just look at Kagawa in Dortmund and then compare him to our current Müller. He needs to play much better if he doesn't want to be benched.

And I'm also against Kroos - Schweini in the midfield for now. I think Kroos works so much better as CAM


+1.


Well to be honest, this correctly applies when playing against "park the bus" teams. Muller needs space and attacking support to operate at his best, so against defensive teams he lacks both. Kroos on the other hand, has the ability to make that "killer pass" that could break apart such defenses.

Whereas, I would by no means bench Muller in open games. Even if he is currently facing a dip in form, his work rate and extremely intelligent use of space would at least lead to a couple of major chances. Kroos is more favorable of a slow tempo and would not excel at CAM in open-space games.
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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby MoFattal » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:48 pm

quaazi wrote:FIFA 12 is hardly basis for accurate factual information.


:shock: :shock: HOW DARE YOU !!! :mrgreen:
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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby lau03143 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:56 pm

I missed the game yesterday (I was at the Scotland Vs England 6 Nations Rugby match, which was another disappoining result for me :( ), but does anyone have a link to match highlights or full match download?

Can't comment on the match, but we have issues with lack of depth in the squad. Like Ribery said during the week, starting XI is strong, but the bench is lacking.
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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby MoFattal » Sun Feb 05, 2012 2:59 pm

lau03143 wrote:Can't comment on the match, but we have issues with lack of depth in the squad. Like Ribery said during the week, starting XI is strong, but the bench is lacking.


Based on yesterday's game, the bench was better #-o Alaba and Olic played better than most of our starters.
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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby lau03143 » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:06 pm

MoFattal wrote:Based on yesterday's game, the bench was better Alaba and Olic played better than most of our starters.


We're becoming too predictable.

Jupp needs to start changing things about, else we're going to fall short on all fronts.

Hopefully this will act as a wake up call to him.
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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:08 pm

lau03143 wrote:does anyone have a link to match highlights or full match download?

You can download the full match here: match-downloads-f14/hamburg-vs-bayern-t7736.html
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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:09 pm

"In the first half we played well, but Bayern's targets are a bit bigger, so we cannot be satisfied, it's quite clear," said Heynckes after the match.

"We had to win here, even by force if need be."

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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:15 pm

Extended highlights (albeit mirror imaged)

at 2:00 you can see the pitiful reason as to why our goal was ruled out.

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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby The Spyware » Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:21 pm

We can't say that Mueller is a CAM , He is more a Second striker
Form Me as we Play 4-2-3-1 so Kroos as a 10 is better for the team both offensively and defensively , based on what both has offered this season so far in different positions , I think it's the best option and we Played our best football with Schweini - Gustavo/Tymo - Kroos ,, and we always played bad with other formations

But if Jupp want to rely on Kroos as CM beside Schweini (which is something I am totally against) and with Muller form this whole season, I think Olic should be in the starting line up instead of him as a SS behind Gomez
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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby YlonenXabi » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:11 pm

Yes, we played our best games this season with this

------------Gomez-------------
Ribery------Kroos------Müller
---Schweini--Tymo/Gus-----

... and Müller was as average as he is being now. So we should play like that again just replacing Müller with Robben
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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:18 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:Yes, we played our best games this season with this

------------Gomez-------------
Ribery------Kroos------Müller
---Schweini--Tymo/Gus-----

... and Müller was as average as he is being now. So we should play like that again just replacing Müller with Robben

Agreed. And Müller can be the super sub for whoever of Ribery/Kroos/Robben gets tired or is underperforming.
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Re: [2012-02-04] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Sun Feb 05, 2012 4:20 pm

lau03143 wrote:
MoFattal wrote:Based on yesterday's game, the bench was better Alaba and Olic played better than most of our starters.


We're becoming too predictable.

Jupp needs to start changing things about, else we're going to fall short on all fronts.

Hopefully this will act as a wake up call to him.

And not just changing players around, but also the formation should be less rigid. He should experiment with variations of our formation so as to have a small element of surprise.
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