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[2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Oct 21, 2017 5:30 pm

Hamburger SV will win
1
17%
It will end in a draw
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Bayern Munich will win
5
83%
 
Total votes : 6

Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby Manchu » Sat Oct 21, 2017 8:50 pm

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Let's just say that we had some serious problems finishing even after Thiago fixed the midfield.
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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:20 pm

Here they are saying that #25 was with the rest of the team celebrating with the fans.
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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby MaCk0y » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:21 pm

Kimmich MOTM! As soon as he got in, we won the match.
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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:25 pm

MaCk0y wrote:Kimmich MOTM! As soon as he got in, we won the match.
Player ratings.
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Vidal has a really high score for what he showed...
While on the other hand Coman has a low score

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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby YlonenXabi » Sat Oct 21, 2017 9:45 pm

We usually play garbage games in their shitty pitch, and today was no exception. We completely dominated them in the second half though. That red card served us the game in a plate, but I was expecting something more than random crosses. It was like Ancelotti´s tactics over an over again today. Could´ve easily been 0-5 in the end, but I´m not too sure if we would've won this game without that red card.

Coman is playing again as he did with Pep which is great. He's a very good asset against most of the BL teams.

But I'm not too sold on him yet. Brainless is probably too harsh, but I always feel disappointed with his final touch. Everything else is outstanding, but after beating 3 defenders he finally finds some space... and ruins the whole thing with a bad pass or something.

He has the potential to be a Top 10 player, but I'm not sure if he will eventually get there.
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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby Roonzil » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:25 pm

Just coming in here to remind us all of that super sexy (and super risky) sliding tackle by Süle, followed by an amazing save from Ulreich. :coffee:
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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby #12 » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:34 pm

We look better on defense and have a more direct approach to goal...

But man alive we suck at finishing! And we’re too playful! Put the damn thing in and start the beautiful magic when we’re two or three up ffs...
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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby Pelin » Sat Oct 21, 2017 10:49 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
MaCk0y wrote:Kimmich MOTM! As soon as he got in, we won the match.
Player ratings.
https://twitter.com/iMiaSanMia/status/9 ... 3474705408
Vidal has a really high score for what he showed...
While on the other hand Coman has a low score

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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby kingbayern » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:01 pm

to be honest, Coman has started to look up more so his crossing is getting better but I agree till raw but I think he will reach his potential
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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby Pelin » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:06 pm

Like Pep era? Seriously? Pep gives specific roles to wingers in his system so that he can get the best out of them. However, we saw the real Coman without Pep's system in Euro 2016.

Bearing in mind that this kid was a big disappointment when Carlo arrived, with more freedom, without Pep's specific role and directions.

For instance, some teams has a formation which can cause overperforming for wingers, where they can enjoy great amount of space. However, that won't be the case with us.

Like always, you miss some details. We always failed to create quality chances without Coman this season. Since he gives balance to us and he offers pace and dribbling skills that we lacked in final third. Also he tracks backs. Though he still needs to end up positions better, he is really stepping up at fast rate. with a demanding Jupp, l hope he will improve his scoring contribution.

Btw, our supposed superstar couldn't keep up the pace and couldn't answer to Hamburg's aggressiveness.What do think about him?
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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby Pelin » Sat Oct 21, 2017 11:11 pm

kingbayern wrote:to be honest, Coman has started to look up more so his crossing is getting better but I agree till raw but I think he will reach his potential

also his passing. Did you see his lob for Lewy? he is trying to move to box for headers now. His header goal was smart last week.

he was clueless player at the start of the last season.
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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby bmguy » Sun Oct 22, 2017 5:27 am

Achilles wrote:Improvement in the 2nd half, we scored that super lucky-ugly goal and luck punished us losing clear-cut-team-effort chances... Shame!

The pitch state was embarrassing and played a big part for us playing so crap combined with our brainless and less technical CM duo the outcome was disgusting. James was neutral, not bad not good compared to Tolisso or Vidal. One of them should be subbed off and not James, granted that Thiago's entrance was beneficial.



stats always tell the truth. James was the worst player in midfield. As a CM, his passing rate was very low, and did almost nothing, no shots, no tackles, no aerial won...

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/12019 ... ern-Munich
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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby Achilles » Sun Oct 22, 2017 8:53 am

bmguy wrote:stats always tell the truth. James was the worst player in midfield. As a CM, his passing rate was very low, and did almost nothing, no shots, no tackles, no aerial won...
https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/12019 ... ern-Munich

Not always since from what I see here Tolisso was the best player :lol: :lol: :lol:

You can't give me that... Tolisso was totally crap and he got lucky with that goal which boosted his ratings, moreover whole team was much better in the 2nd half mostly because of Thiago's entrance and Coman's runs and the goal of course who boosted us while at the same time got HSV out of their defensive shell. Anyway, James wasn't good but I'd prefer or it would make more sense to sub off one of two CMs which were terrible in distributing the ball with ugly passes that hurt us more than James being on ghost-mode.

I think that Tolisso's performances so far are not debatable from any Bayern fan considering his price tag, right? The guy is a mess right now, I don't know in the future but atm the free-Rudy-average transfer looks like a jackpot compared to transfer-record-Tolisso.
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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby ramsej84 » Sun Oct 22, 2017 9:38 am

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Re: [2017-10-21] Hamburger SV vs Bayern Munich

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Sun Oct 22, 2017 11:37 am

Pelin wrote:
kingbayern wrote:to be honest, Coman has started to look up more so his crossing is getting better but I agree till raw but I think he will reach his potential

also his passing. Did you see his lob for Lewy? he is trying to move to box for headers now. His header goal was smart last week.

he was clueless player at the start of the last season.

It always baffled me that people didn't see the talent in Coman before and some considered him a flop. Now that he's playing better than ever before, we're blaming tactics and saying he was clueless because of them?

He was way better in his first season (with Pep) than he was last season. Between Carlo's first season and his few weeks here this season (when Coman was already brilliant), there wasn't much difference in tactics. His performances are probably due to consistent playing time and having the coach's faith.

Edit: I misread your previous comment and thought you meant he was a disappointment before Carlo arrived. I see you meant he was good under Pep and then became a disappointment last season, which is true as I mentioned. Still, I believe it's more about playing time and faith. Carlo insisted on playing Ribery and Costa.
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