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[2013-11-23] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:30 pm

Borussia Dortmund will win
0
No votes
It will end in a draw
3
9%
Bayern Munich will win
31
91%
 
Total votes : 34

Re: [2013-11-23] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby Jorge » Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:54 pm

walter wrote:
It reminds me of Brehme as he had a way to explain it specially in his Inter years.


Man, I love Brehme, one of my all-time favorites. I remember in the WC 1990 Ronald Koeman said something like: "Everything that comes out of Germany comes out of the feet of Andreas Brehme;" he was completely right, IMO Brehme had more influence in the game than even Mathaus. Brehme suspended in the Colombia game was very telling of how Germany's game depended so much on him. Most goals that Germany scored came from the left. Incredible that a left back could have so much influence on the game.


A typical example of what we are talking about was the Germany-Netherlands QF at San Siro in 1990. Brehme went down the line again and again sending crosses looking for Klinsmann's head who was isolated since Voeller had been sent off, I got frustrated myself thinking he was wasting all those crosses but in the 82nd minute when everyone thought he was going deep again he moved back to the edge of the box and completely unmarked curled the ball over the goalkeeper to the far post. The way I see it, he patiently built that space and time for 82 minutes.

Many footballers back them had different ways to describe how Germany was able to do it, efficiency many claimed. I see it in the line of my namesake Valdano: “At the 3rd yawn, the German goal comes”. When Argentinian or Brazilian players could build a goal in a 30 second play, the Germans would craft it patiently for 30 or 40 minutes, but that goal will come and many will not see it coming.

I do not know for sure if Pep’s philosophy is in-sync with that, but I know he’s always been a huge fan of German Football since his playing days, the tactical discipline and mentality to see the game beyond the minute that you are playing or the adverse score that you might have and instead stick to a 90 minute plan was always well appreciated by him and he was more than often not too happy with the Spain of his playing days, a very talented but temperamental team that could do something huge but screw it big time before the game was over.

Going back to this game, Boateng’s long balls from the back kept Dortmund chasing the game, starting from the back, wearing out and not able to win many balls high on the pitch where they can cause damage with their speed against our not too fast centerbacks. Bayern’s effectiveness in the last 20 minutes is not the direct result of anything in particular, but of many pieces that Pep assembled throughout the previous 70 minutes and most likely sending balls directly to Dortmund’s backline combined with our trademark possession and wing-to-wing changes was one of those many things.
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Re: [2013-11-23] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby DerKaiser » Thu Nov 28, 2013 6:45 pm

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Re: [2013-11-23] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby MUTU » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:28 pm

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Re: [2013-11-23] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby Borusse » Thu Nov 28, 2013 9:44 pm

Sokratis is a boss. 8)

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Re: [2013-11-23] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby tflags » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:09 pm

Borusse wrote:Sokratis is a boss. 8)


Boss left Goetze completely unmarked in that 0-1, didn't he?
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Re: [2013-11-23] Borussia Dortmund vs Bayern Munich

Postby Borusse » Thu Nov 28, 2013 10:16 pm

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Borusse wrote:Sokratis is a boss. 8)


Boss left Goetze completely unmarked in that 0-1, didn't he?


That was Friedrich. Completely passive, Sokratis was even close to fixing his mistake.

Maybe it was even Sahin's mistake, Im not sure, but definitely not Sokratis's.
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