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[2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Sat Jan 28, 2012 3:30 pm

Bayern Munich will win
16
84%
It will end in a draw
2
11%
VfL Wolfsburg will win
1
5%
 
Total votes : 19

Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Element » Sun Jan 22, 2012 11:30 pm

YlonenXabi wrote:Who do you guys want to see on the bench? Kroos or Müller?

Neither
Mueller behind Gomez
Kroos Next To Schweinsteiger

but if one has to be benched .. then Kroos
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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby AvatarX » Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:37 am

YlonenXabi wrote:mmm I think that Kroos --- Schweini looks good on the paper, but not on the field (YET). I'd love to see those two in the CM duo playing great, but I think it's a little bit risky at the moment because if we don't get the three points against Wolfsburg (Magath) we will surely go down to the 2nd, 3rd or even 4th position and that could be a little bit embarrasing

I think Tymo or Gustavo should play next to Schweini with Robbery + Kroos.


Agree. IMHO Kroos-Schweini combo could only work in a 4-3-3 with a true 6 behind them, Tymo or Gustavo, just like Barca with Busquets behind Xavi / Iniesta (or Fabregas).

Maybe 1-2 years in the future we could use only Schweini / Kroos, but FTM I think we need a "destroyer" kind of player there, not a creator. Especially Tymo tends to go to center of the field which gives Schweini freedom to go up front and help build up play more.
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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby lau03143 » Mon Jan 23, 2012 10:57 am

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YlonenXabi wrote:mmm I think that Kroos --- Schweini looks good on the paper, but not on the field (YET). I'd love to see those two in the CM duo playing great, but I think it's a little bit risky at the moment because if we don't get the three points against Wolfsburg (Magath) we will surely go down to the 2nd, 3rd or even 4th position and that could be a little bit embarrasing

I think Tymo or Gustavo should play next to Schweini with Robbery + Kroos.

Maybe 1-2 years in the future we could use only Schweini / Kroos, but FTM I think we need a "destroyer" kind of player there, not a creator. Especially Tymo tends to go to center of the field which gives Schweini freedom to go up front and help build up play more.


So bench Müller?

I think the way he's been playing, it might not be a bad thing for him!


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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby MUTU » Mon Jan 23, 2012 11:02 am

I agree. Mueller should be benched for now and used as a supersub for robbery depending which one gets tired faster.
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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Cathe » Mon Jan 23, 2012 8:34 pm

This is live on ESPN for UK people.

Apparently.

(It's also being repeated Saturday night and Sunday morning according to the ESPN HD listing on Sky which makes me wonder whether at least one of them is wrong.)
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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby RAJBAYERN » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:45 am

I understand why people prefer to bench Muller, instead Kroos. I think that many of you are considring that his performance was not good this season..

And maybe for that reason, Heynckes will bench Muller.

But we have to consider that muller was playing all this season as RM and not as SS. And for me, Muller can be better as SS (second striker)..

So if we compare the performance of Kroos as SS this season, he has not been better than the performance of Muller playing in that position in the last two season.

So for me, I will prefer to see Muller playing as SS, instead of Kroos, because he can score and assist more goals than Kroos.
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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Greek Bavarian » Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:24 pm

Basically Kroos when he is behind Gomez plays more like a CAM than a SS and I believe that this is better for the team as well.
So I believe Muller must be more trained to become a better winger because we want both of them in the starting line-up.
Of course this opinion is for general discussion about the team. For the match I want Kroos in and Muller to be a supersub.
We shouldn't play Kroos next to Schweini because we will have two full-backs that go upfront very often and we will need a good defensive midfielder like Gustavo or Tymo to help the two CB's.
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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby lau03143 » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:53 pm

Cathe wrote:This is live on ESPN for UK people.

Apparently.


Confirmed

http://www.livesportontv.com/football

And I double checked on the ESPN UK website too. Just stick in the date

http://tv.espn.co.uk/gb/espl/tv-schedule/#

Greek Bavarian wrote:e shouldn't play Kroos next to Schweini because we will have two full-backs that go upfront very often and we will need a good defensive midfielder like Gustavo or Tymo to help the two CB's.


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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby MUTU » Wed Jan 25, 2012 2:12 pm

Mandzukic, the Wolfsburg danger man who was doubtful for this match is now fit and should play.

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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby dambun » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:11 pm

I am totally against benching Mueller.... He's back to top form IMO.... or close to it....

In fact, in the last match, I've seen him back to being quick-minded... I think he did well on a lot of occasions... and if Gomez were a little bit shaper, he could have scored a couple goals because of that....

Based on the last match. if one of our attacking midfielders is to be benched, that's clearly Robben, not Mueller....
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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Greek Bavarian » Wed Jan 25, 2012 3:26 pm

We must test the Robben-Rafinha duet on the right wing. We can't bench Robben.
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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Payam » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:37 pm

I don't like it either, but Robben hasn't quite been..well anything lately. At the same time Muller, imho, has been equally good as our flying Dutchman.
Whatever Heynckes decides on that right wing spot should be good. After all, he is the one overseeing the pre match practices, not I.
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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby MUTU » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:49 pm

My predicted formation:

.............................. Neuer
Rafinha.... Boateng..... Badstuber.... Lahm
.............................. Tymo
................. Schweini
... Robben............. Kroos............ Ribery
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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Chalant » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:52 pm

Bench Lahm. Heard he was horrible against Gladbach, and if that is true, put Contento in place of Lahm.
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Re: [2012-01-28] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby MUTU » Wed Jan 25, 2012 4:58 pm

Chalant wrote:Bench Lahm. Heard he was horrible against Gladbach, and if that is true, put Contento in place of Lahm.

Contento is not so content at the moment. He has a broken toe. If Lahm doesn't play, we would have to use Pranjic or Gustavo since we cannot afford to use Badstuber as LB. So Lahm's place is more definite than Neuer's at the moment.
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