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[2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

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What is your prediction for this match?

Poll ended at Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:30 pm

Bayern Munich will win
7
88%
It will end in a draw
0
No votes
VfL Wolfsburg will win
1
13%
 
Total votes : 8

Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby MasterBlaster » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:18 pm

James11 wrote:This is the lesson that Carlo never start with Ribery and Robben, never, never again

this is the lesson to use any tactics i think
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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Dusel » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:20 pm

James11 wrote:This is the lesson that Carlo never start with Ribery and Robben, never, never again


Starting with them is not the problem. We started with them and went 2-0 up.

The problem is he waits way too long to substitute them.
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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby FCBayernMunchen » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:22 pm

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#12 wrote:When was the last time we gave away a two goal lead?! Fire the **** already!!!
As if it was the coach who asked Ulreich to do that shit! Come on grow up

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We could and should have run over them when we were 2-0 up at half time. Unacceptable that we didn't win this. Yes, Ulreich and the defence are mostly to blame, but we had a non-functioning team up front. We really should have been able to score more.
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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby MasterBlaster » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:22 pm

2-2 FT, somebody should start asking questions there :/
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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby ramsej84 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:23 pm

The Canadian bastard of Bein futbol jinxed us

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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby pyrasur » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:23 pm

Crisis I say!
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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Ollio » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:24 pm

MasterBlaster wrote:2-2 FT, somebody should start asking questions there :/


Questions have been asked since preseason. We're getting answers every passing game.


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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby MoFattal » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:26 pm

A penalty, a lucky goal, throwing away a two goal lead, robbery wasting our only two real chances of the game, too much space at the back, Carlo clueless in his substitutions, and the usual no-tactics approach. And, we’re too focused thinking about the CL, while the BL is slipping away. This is going to be one long season, it seems
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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Roonzil » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:28 pm

Main problems in my opinion:

- Starting Ribery and Robben, and keeping them on for way too long. They have been terribly ineffective of late.
- Substituting too late. The 85th minute??? When you're risking a draw from the 65th minute onward???

But the biggest, and most important problem:
- Motivation. We were sleepwalking again, same as against Bremen and Anderlecht. And considering what Carlo said after the Anderlecht game (we don't need to play full intensity) I am dead certain he absolutely fails to motivate the players for these games.

We made Wolfsburg look like a pretty good team...that's on US.
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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby #12 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:28 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
#12 wrote:When was the last time we gave away a two goal lead?! Fire the **** already!!!
As if it was the coach who asked Ulreich to do that shit! Come on grow up

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You're kidding me right?! Was it Ulreich's fault we had ONE actual **** opportunity? O N E !!! It wasn't even a penalty and Rafinha fouled before 2-0 - we should've lost this!!

And even with Ulreich I think it was still 2-- wasn't it?
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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Billy兄貴 » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:29 pm

ramsej84 wrote:
#12 wrote:When was the last time we gave away a two goal lead?! Fire the **** already!!!
As if it was the coach who asked Ulreich to do that shit! Come on grow up

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But we could have scored a lot of times to negate said Ulreich mistake. Our link-up play in the final third was practically non-existent. No proper cohesion and/or creativity, just switching flanks, make a futile cross or pass back to Rudy/Hummels/Boateng, then make them punt the ball forward, and if it finds someone, said someone will make the worst possible decision or mess up spectacularly, the coach plays a big part in these things really.
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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby kingbayern » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:30 pm

unacceptable no matter what...in no way should we give up a 2 goal lead
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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby iKIDSTER » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:34 pm

https://understat.com/match/8304 - ok, it looks so sick, but it happens and happened today, sigh
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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby aterford » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:35 pm

Soft penalty.
Lucky deflection to second goal.
No decent subs until WAY too late.
No cohesion.
Players lost all over the pitch.
No creativity in any phase of the game.
No direction, no instruction, no motivation, no passion.

It's on the manager. Period.
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Re: [2017-09-22] Bayern Munich vs VfL Wolfsburg

Postby Dusel » Fri Sep 22, 2017 9:39 pm

If Carlo substitutes Ribery and Robben for Coman and James in the 60th and 75th minutes, Bayern get a 3rd goal and up the attacking tempo, and this forum is not going into meltdown. Sad part is that I think Carlo is afraid to sub Ribery off after his temper tantrum.

As far as I can tell, Ribery is only good for about 60 minutes of top division football against bottom of the table clubs nowadays. Unfortunately, in Ribery's mind he's still Champion's League caliber. He blasted over an open net today...
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